Yeti Pro suddently drops recording level

I use Yeti Pro and have been for years.

Only recently - I’d say from Audacity 3, it has been behaving strangely - suddenly dropping the recording levels to almost zero, with no apparent trigger.

I googled this issue and found this post
https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/solved-blue-yeti-suddenly-very-low-recording-levels/57831/1

which describes exactly what I am experiencing.

I checked all the points mentioned in this thread and shut down Audacity. When I restarted it - the volume was normal again.

Since this issue appeared not long ago and goes away when the program is restarted, it indicates an issue with Audacity. The mic is the same, my computer is the same, the only variable is the new version of Audacity.

Not many people use condenser mics for podcast and other voice recording (it’s an acquired taste :slight_smile: ) that’s why probably not many users report this issue.

Is this something you could look into for the next update of Audacity? why does it have a problem with condenser mics, specifically with Yeti Pro?

oh, one more thing, perhaps this is a clue: - not only the recording volume drops, by the quality of the recorded voice changes noticeably - it’s much thinner, almost echo-e, without that lovely bass cushioning.

thanks

Does it sound thin and echoey like your laptop’s built in mic?

I use Yeti Pro and have been for years.

As it says in that post and above, Audacity may do that when it loses contact with the Yeti. It will start looking for a sound connection that’s still alive and that’s generally your built-in. If you never unplug your Yeti, you might try unplugging it and re-plugging a couple of times to refresh the electrical contact. If you unplug and replug all the time, the connection itself may be worn out. That thin layer of gold doesn’t last forever. Can you change USB connections?

Koz

I unplug it sporadically.

yes, I have changed the USB port, and when the issue arose I unplugged and plugged the mic few times - no difference.

I had to shut down the program and restart.

Interesting.

I replied to Steve but it looks like my reply has not been saved…

I will repeat it here.

I have never used a laptop’s builtin mic, but using my imagination and my memories of hearing such sounds - I’d say yes.

Thin, slightly echoye and changing my voice - it doesn’t quite sound like me.

I only use a PC (workstation) for my Audacity recordings. The PC builtin mic is not functional, and my webcam was disconnected.

The mic’s recording volume was active - although very low - so the mic was seen by Audacity.

On a different note - my post of Feb 14

Freezing up when handling large files

https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/freezing-up-when-handling-large-files/64302/1

has disappeared from the board - at least I can’t see it.

I would appreciate your reply.

When Audacity first starts, it maps out and collects pointers to system audio devices. If you unplug a USB device, then plug it back in, Audacity is not informed - so if start to use it again, Audacity uses the old pointer.

Sometimes this works, sometimes not. :frowning:

It is always best to do Transport > Rescan Audio Devices after changing your USB configuration. :wink:

I would only unplug to fix an issue/error such as the volume drop, not before it happens, so this can’t be the cause of the error.

I was not aware of the Rescan Audio Devices function - thanks for the tip! :slight_smile:

Rescan Audio Devices

There’s two ways to do that: Audacity scans for audio devices automatically when it starts. You can force a scan while Audacity is running with Transport > Rescan.

You can clear one assumption right away by intentionally connecting to your built-in microphone and see if it sounds like your error connection. The name of each connection will appear in the Audacity microphone window. That’s not always useful because the USB “name” may not have anything to do with the maker of the microphone.

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Note what that window says when the system is running normally, and then again when it goes crazy. I bet they’re different. Write down the display.

You can also do a scratch test. Gently scratch each microphone to see which one is active. Consult your instructions to see where your computer microphone is. Mine is to the left of the left-hand Caps-Lock key.

https://www.kozco.com/tech/audacity/clips/ScratchTest2.mp3

Audacity gets its microphone connection from Windows, not the device itself. Other applications can interrupt the connection, so it doesn’t have to be an old or broken cable. We should note that Skype, Zoom, Meetings, etc. take over your computer’s sound when their running and you can’t stop it. These controls don’t always go away when the application is closed, either, but it’s much worse if you leave them running in the background by accident.

And to bring this home, I don’t think Audacity is misbehaving. You are the poster child for an intermittant microphone connection.

Koz

When I checked my audio devices I saw that not only the native mic is disabled in Windows (which I knew) but also that my monitors don’t actually have a built in mic (which I forgot).

So I can’t test it and that’s out as a potential source.

in the Audacity window the only two mic options I have are
Yeti Blue Pro
Microsoft Sound Mapper Input

At all times I have Yeti selected in the window.

The Host I use is MME - should I be using WASAPI?

The Host I use is MME - should I be using WASAPI?

The is where I quietly back out of the room. I’m a Mac elf.

Koz

Hi. WASAPI will generally provide a lower latency than MME. It will also allow you to record audio being played back on your computer in case you need to do that.

not only the recording volume drops, by the quality of the recorded voice changes noticeably - it’s much thinner, almost echo-e, without that lovely bass cushioning.

Are you recording Stereo, two blue waves? A Yeti will do that. It’s a multi-capsule microphone and stereo is one of the options.

Your problem fails one of the Koz Tests. If somebody wrote me a really big check to force your machine to break, how would I do it? I can think of ways to make a Yeti sound like that, but not to have the effect come and go. None of these failures would reset when you restarted Audacity.

Describe your system. What kind of computer? Model numbers? What are your monitors?

Has the problem ever cleared by itself?

You can’t force it to break, right? It always happens by itself? Anything magic about it? It always fails after 3:35PM? Only on cloudy days? That’s a programming joke. Programmers have failures they call “Moon-Phase-Errors.” "When the humidity is over 65% and it’s a Thursday…

Koz

The current stable Audacity is 3.1.3. Which one do you have?

Koz

3.1.3

always in stereo

there is no pattern whatsoever - totally ad hoc - no identifiable triggers like the full moon or a bad mood of my cat (deceased)

potential cause - gremlins in my computer which come and go

it clears itself when restarting Audacity

https://paste.pics/b6092c52ad1cd8bfeb36528a1d09a532

I am much more concerned about this error

https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/recording-error-unable-to-record/64332/1

could someone reply please?

Error opening recording device. Error code: -9999 Unanticipated host error

Oddly, that helps.

That’s one version of the microphone losing good quality contact with Audacity. The sudden reduction in volume and bad sound quality is another. Audacity can do that when the connection to the microphone vanishes briefly.

Do you have another USB cable?

I did notice that the USB cable supplied with some microphones is longer than is good and healthy. As a fuzzy rule, 6 feet or 2M is maximum.

I think this is a “printer” cable, right? USB-A on one end and USB-B on the other.

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This is where you find out that the cable on the bottom of the Yeti is loose.

Koz

what does a printer USB cable have to do with my Mic cable?

they are not the same.

I think that the USB ports on my PC are the issue as other cables plugged into other ports are wobbly - the ports are crap. they are not deep enough and not tight enough.

BTW how did you embed the image in the post? When I clicked on the picture icon it would only accept the URL.

It’s a .png graphic. Uncompressed screen grab picture file. First I heard of anybody not being able to view them.

The older printer cable is the one that the Yeti used. Square connector under the microphone and rectangular in the back of the computer. I think the newer Yeti’s used a mini under the microphone. This is the Yeti with the optional XLR analog cable, right?

That one is a .JPG. Can you view that one?

I think that the USB ports on my PC are the issue as other cables plugged into other ports are wobbly - the ports are crap.

That would do it. You’re describing a bad USB connection.

Koz