Extreme slowdown, Audacity 3

Having the same problem described in these threads, none of the suggested fixes have helped.

https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/audacity-3-0-0-on-windows-10-struggling/60914/4
https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/plethora-of-issues-lost-old-save-program-runs-slow-high-cpu-usage/61105/7

I updated to Audacity 3 last month for editing a podcast. It worked fine, at first. I edited a full episode with no problems. I edited about half of my current episode, and suddenly the program has effectively stopped working. Any action I take in the program takes at least 30-seconds; including clicking on the “file” menu to open projects. Copy and pasting a .1 second clip took nearly two minutes.

The problem is limited to Audacity. Nothing else on my computer is running slow, even when Audacity is open. Audacity, meanwhile, is always slow, even if no other program is running. It is slow even if no project is open. I have tried restarting my computer multiple times, I have tried reinstalling Audacity, and saving the project under a different name.

I checked my task manager, and my mem/cpu usage are well below my computer’s limit. Audacity, if this matters, is taking about 30% of my CPU as soon as it opens, even before opening a project.

At this point, I’ll probably switch to Reaper, but I want to recover the hours I’ve got in this current project, if anyone can recommend how to do that.

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The mystery deepens: I spent half an hour muting tracks to export chunks of the finished audio… The export function works like normal. Only part of the program not running slow.

Try updating to Audacity 3.0.2.
I think that’s unlikely to be the problem, but 3.0.2 does fix a number of issues.

I already tried: nada! But thanks for taking the time to reply.

When I try to delete or silence sections of audio Audacity hangs up for 20 seconds or so. In the past the change was instantaneous. Strangely it just started today. Yesterday there was no problem.

What size is the project “AUP3” file when Audacity is closed?

About the project:

  • How many tracks?
  • Mono or stereo tracks?
  • How long are the tracks?
  • What is/are the sample rate of the tracks? (look in the panel on the left end of the track)

What is the full path + file name of the project? (For example: “C:\Users\Tim O’Brian\Desktop\Greatest Song in the World.aup3”)

It might have something to do with clip boundaries? I have a 1 hour file with hundreds of clip boundaries, and it’s excruciatingly slow to do any edits. It seemed like it was slower the further along I was in the file which finally made me suspect something. I tried using Edit → Clip Boundaries → Join on the entire track, and it locked up the UI for more than an hour at 100% CPU before I killed it.

I exported as a WAV, brought it into a new project, and was able to edit with no problems.

I had the same issues only recently (june 2021)

Here is what was happening:
When Audacity 3.0 or 3.0.2 used (on Win10 or win7 same result) and my project had many (60 up) parts labeled and marked, it started lagging to any click, even deleting a simple track marker line would take first a minute to respond and the time would increase with every new click.
25 minute audio would take up to 20 min to save and close.

What I did is export the audio to mp3 file.
I re installed Audacity 2.4 and imported this file. I put back all the markings and labels to this and saved it. It works like a charm. No lag nothing.
Now I have also imported this mp3 file to Audacity 3.0 and works fine. I have done all the markings and labels and works fine. The original .au3 project had a lot of edits like volume changes, deletions, insertions, but lagging started to apear when clip fix was used once or twice.

What I observed is that 2.4 uses a different method to save the edits, has lots of subfolders associated with each project and projects have .aup extension where 3.0 has only 3 files associated with each project with .au3 extension. Older version projects are not compatible with new Audacity.

I hope this will help







IF any of you have a .aup3 project that is currently experiencing these moderate slowdowns, AND IF the project is not yet totally unusable due to excessive slowness, I would like to take a look at it. Please zip it up and upload it to a public file server, then post or PM me a link. Thank you.

Thank you Jademan for your response.
As far as Neos (me) project is concerned I tried to recreate to Audacity 3.0.2 from the file saved by the earlier Audacity version(.aup) and put most of the missing clip boundaries back. This worked fine and quick.
I saved the new file (.au3) and reopened it and seems that is working fine.
What I observed now is that this file is 772mb and is only one with .au3 extension,
Previously project saved with 3.0.2 was around 600mb and had two associated files with extensions .au3-shm and .au3-wal. These seem to not be here on my this attempt.
Unfortunately I deleted the original offending project so I can not send.

Cheers and thanks for this great application.

I’ve also encountered extreme slowdown since I upgraded from Audacity 2.4.2 to 3.0.4.

For me, the slowdown also exists when I simply open the Audacity program with an empty session. After clicking the icon in the Windows toolbar to launch Audacity, it takes 10-15 seconds before the window appears. With version 2.4.2, the window would open almost instantly.

I did a completely clean install of (64-bit) Audacity 3.0.4 - so, all settings are default. And I’m running this on a brand new laptop, which has an 11th gen Intel i7-11800H CPU, 16GB of RAM, and a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro SSD. In other words, it’s a blazing fast computer. Yet Audacity opens at a crawl. I think I may have to downgrade back to 2.4.2 as a result… :frowning:

It is possible that plug-ins or prioer settings are causing you difficulty.

There is a Windows directory: C:\Users<your name goes here>\AppData\audacity

Since AppData is hidden, you may need to go into File Explorer > View and check “HIdden items” to see it.

Delete (or name) this audacity folder. Then try again.

Thanks for the suggestion - I just tried that (deleting the folder at \AppData\Roaming\audacity), but it didn’t make any difference to the startup time.

However, I’ve since solved it - I found this thread, which contains the solution that worked for me (see the last post):
https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/slow-startup-on-new-ssd-based-system/53265/1

On my computer it’s very slightly different - my microphone devices (there are 2 of them) don’t have an Enhancements tab as shown in that thread - rather, mine have a checkbox called “Enable audio enhancements”. So this is exactly what I did:

  1. Go to Sound in the Control Panel
  2. Go to the Recording tab, select the microphone, click Properties
  3. Go to the Advanced tab and deselect “Enable audio enhancements”
  4. Repeat for other microphone device(s)

After doing this, the average startup time of Audacity was reduced from ≈12 seconds to ≈3 seconds!!!
2021-08-29 18_45_25-Microphone Properties.png

I’ve tried a number of things for this same issue. What works for me is to close the project and open it again. I am speculating that the issue is how Audacity remembers edits. The more you edit the more it has to remember not only the edit but, the order in which the edits occur. Closing the project, which in my case also closes the application compacts the project and erases the “un-do, re-do” history. When I fire the application back up, it returns to it’s original quick response. I have looked for a way to control this memory but so far, nothing. Hope this helps.

What I did is export the audio to mp3 file.
I re installed Audacity 2.4 and imported this file. I put back all the markings and labels to this and saved it. It works like a charm. No lag nothing.
Now I have also imported this mp3 file to Audacity 3.0 and works fine.

That may have been a side issue of using smaller sound files. But:

DO NOT DO PRODUCTION IN MP3!!

MP3 gets its small, convenient sound files by scrambling musical tones in the show and deleting some of them. It’s pretty clever about it and you can’t usually hear what it did. That’s why MP3 is designed as a final product. Put one in your music player and you’re done.

If you have one in the middle of your edit, you might want to make a new MP3 when you’re done. Making a new MP3 causes more scrambling and deletions. Depending on the MP3 quality you picked, you may be able to hear sound distortions.

Certainly by the third MP3, you will be able to hear the damage, and it’s permanent.

Producing work for a client can cause serious problems. ACX demands audiobook submissions to be in MP3. If you started out with your raw voice work in MP3, that may destroy your audiobook career.

Use Perfect Quality WAV files for all your raw recordings, backups, and Archive Masters. You can use Audacity Projects, too, but those can be brittle. Do that in addition to the WAV files.

Koz

Original poster here,
I am using version 3.2.4 now and is working amazingly good.
Thanks to the good people for providing this app.

:confused: The original poster of this topic was logan_carroll. Are you logan_carroll ?

Thanks for this update. There were some bugs in early versions of 3.0.x that could have contributed to extreme slowdowns. These were corrected in 3.0.5. (Other unrelated issues introduced in 3.2.0 should be resolved by 3.3 when it comes out this quarter). Glad to hear things are working swimmingly for you. :smiley:


Thanks for sharing this. I’ve noticed that when I do my final close after a long editing session it can take quite a while. So I may do an “intermediate” close as you do. Perhaps this is is a behavior someone should benchmark. :question:

Peter, do you have any way to benchmark, say, an amplify operation on a 1 hour track, repeated say a dozen times to see if the time increases on each pass ? And compare it with 2.4.2 ?

I can when I’m back in Manchester in the latter half of March (I’m in Zurich right now - and skking in the Alps next week).

I would do this by creating a Macro with the dozen passes of Amplify. All versions post 2.4.2 have a time recordg and reporting mech that can be activated in the Macro. Leland did this ffor me when I wanted to test the performance of AUP versus AUP3 to unsure that we did not get degaradation of processing with the nove to Unitary project.

Leland did build me a retrofit 2.4.2 after 2.4.2 release with this mech in too - BUT I only have that on my PC back in Manchester and not on this Zurich PC, sorry.

Peter