Trim doesn't work since the 3.7.1 update

Every time I highlight a section to trim when I press delete or backspace it clips the audio creating a new section. Please someone help me figure out how to fix it. I’ve been having a mental breakdown for 2 hours already.

This appears to be new behavior introduced in 3.7.2 (the latest release) - and I presume an intentional design decision by Muse.

Personally I can see that the separate clips may well be useful in helping identify precisely where the deletion took place. The separate clips make no difference to how the audio plays or is exported.

To remove the clip lines and consolidate the audio, just select the audio to be consolidated and use:
Edit > Audio Clips > Join or its shortcut Ctrl + J

If you do this a lot you could create a macro that makes the deletion, the selection and the join - and then create a custom shortcut to invoke that macro.

Peter

I think it’s a bug.

It’s a side effect of #7700 ­ probably – it was intended to make deletions non-destructive when the selection carries into inter-clip space, but instead it made all deletions non-destructive. I don’t think 3.x is ready to have this behavior.

@LWinterberg
It screws up Truncate Silence:

Peter

This is 7700

But surely Audacity is well known for being a “destructive” editor (apart from the relatively new Real-time effects) so I, and I suspect most users, would not expect Delete to be non-destructive.

Peter

it’s only supposed to be non-destructive for the edge of a clip.

Ahhhhhh OIC.

How will one destructively delete ends of a clip when needed?

probably by rendering the clip.

In recent user tests, this turned up several times - people kept using delete along the edge of a mean of trimming the clips and then were surprised when they couldn’t untrim.

Hi. My first time posting on here. I made an account becuase of this issue. I edit audiobooks in Audacity, making hundreds of deletes/cuts per hour. This change has properly thrown a wrench in things. Any word on if this is a bug that’s likely to be fixed or an intentional change?
If it’s intentional I’m going to need to figure out a new workflow. Waxcylinder, you mention creating a macro to cut then immediatly rejoin the clips. How would you do that? I get you’d want to “cut” → “select” → “join”, but I’m uncertain how to get the macro to select either side of the newly created split. Thanks in advance.

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@Feasible

I can make it work with this simple Macro - but note that it will join all other clips in your project (including putting silence in empty gaps). I ran this macro on a project with a 30 second chirp which had a selection from 10 to 20 seconds.

I can’t for the life of figure our how to extend the selection to be both sides of the deletion point.

@steve (who is much better at macros than me) may be able to provide some insight on how to do this.

Peter

Peter

He can indeed :slight_smile:

Delete:
SelectTime:End="0.001" RelativeTo="Selection" Start="-0.001"
Join:
SelectTime:RelativeTo="Selection" Start="0.001"
CursSelStart:

The first SelectTime command extends a selection 1ms left and right.

The last two lines clear the selection and place the cursor at the edit point.

I see, thanks. I’ve reverted to the prevous version of audacity for the time being, but this is helpful to know. :slight_smile: