Switching to microphone during recording

I use Audacity 3.1.2. to record LPs to MP3. I have two major issues with the software running on Mac OS Monterey 12.0.1.

  1. Half way through most attempts to record an LP the program switches to microphone recording. If I disable the microphone it won’t record at all.

  2. Every time I stop Audacity and export the recording I have to quit it and reopen it otherwise I get error messages.

How are you connecting the turntable to the Mac? Make and model number of the interface?

What do you mean “disable the microphone”?

Exactly what error messages are you getting?

– Bill

Audacity might do that if it loses contact with its recording device. It starts searching for a device that’s still alive—usually built-in microphone. If you disable the microphone in System Preferences, Audacity may just crash.

You’re not using your entertainment system and a USB interface are you? Chances are good you’re using an Affordable Home USB Turntable. When you transfer the last record, you’re doing to put the turntable in the trash, right? We may have reached the trash stage a little early.

Koz

It’s a Rega turntable, Nad amp, and connected to the Mac via a Project phono box II USB.

Error notice is as follows:

Error opening recording device. Error code -9986 Internal Port Audio Error:

{
“timestamp”: 1638406891,
“event_id”: “ec7a3e503c334547a3c68b910e468088”,
“platform”: “native”,
“release”: “audacity@3.1.2”,
“contexts”: {
“os”: {
“type”: “os”,
“name”: “Macintosh”,
“version”: “10.16.0”
}
},
“exception”: {
“values”: [
{
“type”: “Error”,
“value”: “Error opening recording device.\nError code: -9986 Internal PortAudio error.”,
“mechanism”: {
“type”: “runtime_error”,
“handled”: false
}
}
]
}
}

As I understand it the NAD amp is just there for listening - the turntable connects to the ProJect USB interface which then connects to the Mac via USB.

Go to Apple (menu) > System Preferences > Input and select the ProJect USB interface. Play an album. Does the input level meter bounce? Let it play for a while. Does the interface remain connected?
– Bill

Thanks for your help

Under Sound I have two options: iMac Microphone & USB Audio CODEC. Selecting the latter it states Settings for the selected device: the selected device has no input controls. I’m playing an LP now and the input level is registering it as you would expect. I have played the whole side of the LP and it’s fine all the way through.

I use Audacity 3.1.2. to record LPs to MP3.

What were you using before this? 3.1.2 is a relative newcomer. Did you upgrade from one of the Audacity 2 versions?

You might try stepping back to Audacity 2.4.2.

There is a caution that Audacity 3 projects will not open in Audacity 2. The MP3 files should be OK.

Koz

So the question remains, why does the USB input apparently disconnect when you’re using Audacity? We haven’t even got to the second part of your question about error messages when exporting.

What are your settings in the Device Toolbar?

– Bill

Previous version of Audacity didn’t have these problems but used to simply stop recording half way through, so to record an LP I would probably have to do it in three goes.

Toolbar settings: Core Audio; USB Audio Codec; 2 (Stereo) Recording; External Headphones.

The error messages aren’t when exporting, that’s fine. I get the error when I delete a recording after exporting and try to make a new recording. I have to quit the program and reopen it.

In order to test this further I’ll need to update my Macbook Air to Monterey then try recording using my USB interface. That may be a day or three.

Given your test in System Sound Preferences (where the whole LP side played with no problem) this looks like it might be a problem with Audacity on Monterey.

Meanwhile, is anyone else out there recording using Audacity 3.1.2 on macOS Monterey via a USB interface?

– Bill

Hi Bill,

I’ve just plugged my USB interface Edirol UA-1EX into my Macbook Pro running Monterey 12.0.1

Just fired up 3.1.2 and it’s recording merrily from my FM tuner via the Edirol - recorded 5 minutes so far - but I’ll leave it running for a while.

Peter

used to simply stop recording half way through

That’s not normal. Suppose you were recording a live interview with the Governor? We expect Audacity to continue recording unless you intentionally stop it or it runs out of resources.

delete a recording after exporting and try to make a new recording.

How do you delete the first recording? Press the little to the left of the track? Audacity doesn’t just forget the first recording when you do that. It saves it up in case you need to Edit > UNDO the closure and get the first track back.

Audacity forgets all those housekeeping chores when you close it.

…runs out of resources.

The symptoms are screaming running out of memory or other overload condition. I predict (holding fingers to forehead) nobody else is going to be able to duplicate your failures. Your machine isn’t big enough to do your jobs.

We can see how the others do.

Koz

OK so 5 hours on and it’s still recording from the UA-1EX just fine.

So AFAICT no problem with Audacity on Monterey, in this regard anyway …

Peter.

It’s a 2020 iMac so it should be able to cope I would have thought…

Oh, wait. This does ring a bell.

I used to regularly get the Film Editorial Manager out of trouble by closing the hundreds of apps he left running in the background. Does this Mac still have little lights or dots or something under the Apps that are running?

Screen Shot 2021-12-08 at 6.50.17 PM.png
How many dots do you have?

Carefully save all your work and Apple > Shut Down… > Shut Down. Not Restart. If you never do this, it may take a while to close everything. Watch for a little spinning daisy as it goes.

Make sure it’s dead (make coffee) and then start it. Macs don’t Chong any more, right? I miss that confirmation tone. I wonder if you can put it back.

Start just Audacity and see if the problem changes.

Koz

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/enable-classic-startup-chime-on-newer-macs/

Koz

Just made a two minute recording via USB and it switched to microphone after about 60 seconds. Deleted the recording, started recording again, error message, shut program, reopened it and made at the recording via USB for 90 minutes without a problem. Random. I have restarted the Mac numerous times. And I have tried shutting down programs. I guess from your responses I’m just going to have to live with it… Thanks for your interest in this problem and the suggestions.

Can you record using Quicktime Player? After opening it you can select File > New Audio Recording. Click the downward-pointing arrow next to the record button and choose maximum quality. Then click the record button and start your LP. This should save as an AIFC file. You can then import that file in Audacity to do your editing.
– Bill