Subliminal help

Hi:

 I am a absolute novice when it come to this ultra rich program…here’s what I want to do if it’s possible.
 Back in the late 70s and early 80s there was a company call Mind Communications created by a Dr. Paul Tuthill. It used a special sound proessor to create subliminials. It would take suggestions, lower then by 15 decibals, and them follow the volume of another sound wave, sat ocean sueh or music.hiding the affirmation track under the surf or music Is there a way to do this in Audacity? And if so, how?
 I’m am aware of a .ny plugin that creates “silent” subliminal, but what I seek is a bit different….help?.

Open (or create) the file with the message that you want to be subliminal.

Run the Amplify effect at -15 or -20dB (to attenuate rather than amplify).

Import (don’t “open”) the masking sound and it will show-up below the original track.

When you export they will be mixed. (Export as WAV or FLAC because lossy formats like MP3 partially work by throwing-away sounds you can’t hear.)

…If you want to “decode” the secret message, open the original masking sound and run the Invert effect.

Now import the file with the subliminal. When exported (or played) the masking sound will be subtracted-out, and you can optonally re-amplify the message later.

This is pretty much what I’m doing now. But this is just lowering the overall volume of the affirmation track, not following the volume ebb and flow of the carrier track. The carrier track has peaks and valleys, and I want to volume following those with the affirmation track. Thanks tho :slight_smile:

Apparently Dr. Paul Tuthill is/was a chiropractor, (not a doctor of medicine).

His company “MIND COMMUNICATION, INC”. , “Dissolved: Operation Of Law”.

If this stuff worked his subliminal business should have succeeded rather than collapsed.

Interesting…I wondered what had become of his company! I understand that Jonathan Parker used the same device to create many of his subliminal programs in the 80s and 90s, and he is still going strong. Thanks for the info! Still looking for a how to tho…

If you know some programming you may be able to write your own Nyquist plug-in.

Or, I don’t think Audacity can do this, but most full DAWs support automation and sidechaining where one track can affect another. Usually it’s the opposite… When A gets louder, B is automatically turned-down. But I think you can configure it to do almost anything.

Thanks again for the insight. Having had 2 strokes and a heart attract, I really want to AVOID learning to program at this stage lol. I was hoping this could be done in Audacity with minimal input, seeing it is so full featured. It seems a simple thing, but again I’m no programmer..

It can with an “Envelope follower” plug-in, (e.g. the Audacity plug-in “Dynamic Mirror”).

“Dr. Alan Randolph Tuthill” was still crackin’ suckers backs in 2022, (aged ~77).
~30 years after his “Mind Communication Inc” business collapsed.

BTW he pleaded guilty to healthcare fraud in 2007 … https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4752367/73/united-states-v-tuthill/

That may very true, but given how feature rich it is…maybe??

Interesting, but given they found Rife and Reams “guilty” I am not convinced…taken with a grain of salt…

Tuthill pled guilty to healthcare fraud: billing insurance for treatments which did not take place.

I’m not aware that Rife was found guilty of a felony, but those who regurgitated his scam have.

Again thanks for the info/input. Will have to look for an envelope follower I guess
Have some knowledge about Reams. I have a pastor friend, who at the time was diagnosed with stomach cancer. He went to Ream’s center in Florida, spent 30 days there, and when he returned for surgery, the cancer was completely gone. They checked him twice to make sure they were right…yup he HAD cancer. He lived another 30 years. Reams was hounded with fraud charges twice, in Georgia and Florida…yet had 99.9% cure rate of TERMINAL cancer. Subject of a book by another pastor who also had a similar experience…dozens of testimony’s about the effectiveness of Ream’s approach.
So I take take frauded charges with a grain of salt. Like almost every “professional” field, the “established” experts often throw shade on those that have different views.
Tuthill’s case is especially suspect especially with Parker using the SAME device, and not having “fraud” charges too.
Grain of salt territory…

Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool.

Cancer can spontaneously remit, e.g. via naturally-occurring oncolytic virus,
(rather than divine intervention).

Self-confessed fraudster Tuthill claimed success when improvement is reported and blames the victim for non-compliance when there is no improvement.

“The good people have improved immensely, and the people who are marginal or shirkers quit.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-08-fi-407-story.html

WOW, jaded much???
I was concerned about the tech, not the man. He may well be a scumbag, but that doesn’t negate the tech. Given the tech was-is used by some one else without the “fraud” charge.
I suppose given some of your responses, you’ve never heard of Ivan Painn?

“The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no God” Ps 53:1

 Terminal Cancer doesn't spontaneous remission as a rule....BIT of a stretch here

It does occur in a small minority of cases.
The quacks cherry-pick those cases to sell their fraudulent treatments.

If God existed, (who can literally perform miracles), why do their representatives on Earth,
(e.g. Pastors), need to consult a doctor ?.

I think it’s OK to mention that this stuff is nonsense but I don’t think this is the place for a long discussion about it. I recommend that we stick with the technical aspects & audio processing.

…Judging from previous discussions, most of us here are scientific-rational-skeptical types.

Agree..this is a TECH forum

No I haven’t, (nor Ivan Panin either),
but I’ve heard of bible code … https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Bible_Code.