Overdub not working

Alexm · February 3, 2021, 12:33pm

Hi there,
My system is audacity 2.4.2 on windows 10.
I use to record interface evo4 with microphone plugged into it.
My settings:
Windows direct sound
Mic line 1/2
1 or 2 recording channels
Main output 1/2 audient evo 4

Situation

i record a backing track from computer. Working well alone, i can hear it fine.
i record myself with mic fine independently
My problem
but i cannot hear the backing track besides it is running which i need to hear while recording
What i tried
put overdub on, but then i receive message « unanticipated host error » and then « error code 0 success »
software playthrough off
restart all
Thanks in advance for your help

steve · February 3, 2021, 12:42pm

You are correct that “Overdub” must be enabled.

The error may be due to the sound card settings in Windows.

To open the Windows Sound control panel:

open the run dialog with Windows logo + R
enter: mmsys.cpl
press the OK button

Check that the audient evo 4 is set to use 44100 Hz sample rate in both the Recording tab and the Playback tab.

steve · February 3, 2021, 12:46pm

Sorry I just spotted that.
Does that setting use the audient evo 4?
To hear the live input without a delay, you have to use the same device for both recording and playback.

“Listen to this device” must be OFF (not enabled) for all recording devices in the Windows Sound control panel.

steve · February 3, 2021, 12:48pm

I would generally recommend using “MME” rather than “direct sound” because “direct sound” is only emulated in Windows Vista and later.
(It probably won’t make any difference, but just as a general point )

Alexm · February 5, 2021, 9:55am

Thank you Steve for support on this.
Unfortunately, problem remains after those operations.
Only, when i choose mme, instead of receiving message of error, the red dot stays on the begining of the track, does not move and it is not possible to record.

steve · February 5, 2021, 10:04am

Please post the “Audio Device Info” (from Audacity’s “Help menu > Diagnostics”)

Alexm · February 5, 2021, 11:49am

Thank you Steve for support on this.
Unfortunately, problem remains after those operations.
Only, when i choose mme, instead of receiving message of error, the red dot stays on the begining of the track, does not move and it is not possible to record.

steve · February 5, 2021, 11:54am

“Audio Device Info” is a diagnostic tool. If you post that info here on the forum it may give us a clue as to what the problem is.

jademan · February 6, 2021, 1:45pm

Also, check that the Audacity Project Rate is set to 44100 Hz in the lower left-hand corner of the screen and that the track you are playing is also at 44100 Hz. (Keep at 32-bit float).

To collect this info, when the Audio Device Info is displayed, press Ctrl+A, then Ctrl+C. Then when you are posting in this forum, click the button “</>”, then press Ctrl-V.

If you haven’t already done so, here are a couple of other things to try:

Windows WASAPI
Try using your PC’s headphones as your output device (and specify in Device Control Panel).
If you are using “R” to record, try using “Ctrl+R”.
Try 1-channel only, with mono, “1” on evo4, “2 channel, 16-bit 44100 Hz (CD Quality)” in mmsys.cpl.

I hope this helps.

Alexm · February 8, 2021, 10:56am

Here isAudio Device Info

==============================
Default recording device number: 1
Default playback device number: 9
==============================
Device ID: 0
Device name: Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 1
Device name: Mic | Line | Instrument 1 (Audi
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 2
Device name: Mic | Line 2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 3
Device name: Microphone Array (Realtek Audio
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 4
Device name: Loop-back 2 (R) (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 5
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 6
Device name: Mic | Line 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 7
Device name: Loop-back 1 (L) (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 8
Device name: Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
    352800
    384000
==============================
Device ID: 9
Device name: Main Output 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
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    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
    352800
    384000
==============================
Device ID: 10
Device name: Speakers / Headphones (Realtek 
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
    352800
    384000
==============================
Device ID: 11
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
    352800
    384000
==============================
Device ID: 12
Device name: Speakers (EPSON Projector ENP A
Host name: MME
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.09
Low Playback Latency: 0.09
High Recording Latency: 0.18
High Playback Latency: 0.18
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
    352800
    384000
==============================
Device ID: 13
Device name: Primary Sound Capture Driver
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 14
Device name: Mic | Line | Instrument 1 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 15
Device name: Mic | Line 2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 16
Device name: Microphone Array (Realtek Audio)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 17
Device name: Loop-back 2 (R) (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 18
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 19
Device name: Mic | Line 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 20
Device name: Loop-back 1 (L) (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.12
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.24
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 21
Device name: Primary Sound Driver
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.12
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.24
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Device ID: 22
Device name: Main Output 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.12
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.24
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Device ID: 23
Device name: Speakers / Headphones (Realtek Audio)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.12
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.24
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Device ID: 24
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.12
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.24
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Device ID: 25
Device name: Speakers (EPSON Projector ENP Audio Device)
Host name: Windows DirectSound
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.12
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.24
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
    12000
    15000
    16000
    22050
    24000
    32000
    44100
    48000
    88200
    96000
    176400
    192000
==============================
Device ID: 26
Device name: Speakers / Headphones (Realtek Audio)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.003
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.01
Supported Rates:
    48000
==============================
Device ID: 27
Device name: Speakers / Headphones (Realtek Audio) (loopback)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 28
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.003
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.01
Supported Rates:
    44100
==============================
Device ID: 29
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4) (loopback)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 30
Device name: Speakers (EPSON Projector ENP Audio Device)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.003
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.01
Supported Rates:
    48000
==============================
Device ID: 31
Device name: Speakers (EPSON Projector ENP Audio Device) (loopback)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 32
Device name: Main Output 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0
Low Playback Latency: 0.003
High Recording Latency: 0
High Playback Latency: 0.01
Supported Rates:
    44100
==============================
Device ID: 33
Device name: Main Output 1/2 (Audient EVO4) (loopback)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 34
Device name: Mic | Line 2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 1
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 35
Device name: Microphone Array (Realtek Audio)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 36
Device name: Loop-back 2 (R) (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 1
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 37
Device name: Loop-back 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 38
Device name: Mic | Line 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 39
Device name: Loop-back 1 (L) (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 1
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 40
Device name: Mic | Line | Instrument 1 (Audient EVO4)
Host name: Windows WASAPI
Recording channels: 1
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.003
Low Playback Latency: 0
High Recording Latency: 0.01
High Playback Latency: 0
Supported Rates:
==============================
Selected recording device: 38 - Mic | Line 1/2 (Audient EVO4)
Selected playback device: 26 - Speakers / Headphones (Realtek Audio)
Supported Rates:

Alexm · February 8, 2021, 10:58am

Also additional information
WASAP Does not work but going on Windows Direct Sound and following your remaining indications, it accepts Records but stops indicating in message below Record On Pause ( CTRL + R does not work )

jademan · February 8, 2021, 1:14pm

In what way ?

steve · February 8, 2021, 4:31pm