Nyquist effects broken

Hoth · November 13, 2022, 4:53pm

I’m running the latest KDE Neon. Since updating to Audacity 3.2.1 (which happened automatically during the distribution upgrade), all the nyquist effect plugins have stopped working. The main one I need all the time is “crossfade clips”. When I go to the the plugin manager page it shows that it’s disabled, so I enable it. But that doesn’t make it show up, although it still shows as enabled when I go back to the plugin manager. When I close and restart Audacity and return to the plugin manger, crossfade clips still shows as enabled but is nowhere to be found in the Effect menu, nor any other menu I checked.

The only suspicious thing in Help → Diagnostics → Show Log is “08:39:18: sqlite3 message: (1) no such table: project in “SELECT 1 FROM project LIMIT 1;””

Starting it from the console, I get all of this:

(audacity:218939): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:34:51.786: A floating object was finalized. This means that someone
called g_object_unref() on an object that had only a floating
reference; the initial floating reference is not owned by anyone
and must be removed with g_object_ref_sink().
ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:601:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1032:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1369:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.0.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2'
ALSA lib conf.c:5178:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5701:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1369:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.0.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2'
ALSA lib conf.c:5178:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5701:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1369:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.0.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5178:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5701:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline:CARD=0,DEV=0
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1369:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.0.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5178:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5701:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline:CARD=0,DEV=0
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1369:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.0.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5178:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5701:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM phoneline
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1369:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.0.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5178:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5701:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2664:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM phoneline
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
ALSA lib pcm_oss.c:397:(_snd_pcm_oss_open) Cannot open device /dev/dsp
ALSA lib pcm_oss.c:397:(_snd_pcm_oss_open) Cannot open device /dev/dsp
ALSA lib confmisc.c:160:(snd_config_get_card) Invalid field card
ALSA lib pcm_usb_stream.c:482:(_snd_pcm_usb_stream_open) Invalid card 'card'
ALSA lib confmisc.c:160:(snd_config_get_card) Invalid field card
ALSA lib pcm_usb_stream.c:482:(_snd_pcm_usb_stream_open) Invalid card 'card'
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1032:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
08:34:56: Debug: DirManager: Created new instance.
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:56: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ScreenToClient cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Cut'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Copy'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Paste'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Trim'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Silence'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Undo'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'Redo'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'ZoomIn'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'ZoomOut'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'ZoomToggle'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'ZoomSel'
08:34:57: Debug: Warning: command doesn't exist: 'FitInWindow'
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: ClientToScreen cannot work when toplevel window is not shown
08:34:57: Debug: Unrecognized accel key 'backspace', accel string ignored.
08:34:57: Debug: Unrecognized accel key 'backspace', accel string ignored.
08:34:57: Debug: Unrecognized accel key 'numpad_enter', accel string ignored.
08:34:57: Debug: Unrecognized accel key 'numpad_enter', accel string ignored.

But everything is fine except for the non-functional nyquist effect plugins.

steve · November 13, 2022, 5:10pm

Are Nyquist effects enabled in “Edit menu > Preferences > Effects”?

Do you have the “Nyquist Prompt” listed in the main “Tools” menu?

Hoth · November 13, 2022, 8:18pm

Yes to both.

steve · November 13, 2022, 8:49pm

Maybe you’re looking in the wrong place. The default ordering within the Effect menu has been changed.
With the new default order, “crossfade clips” should be in “Effect menu > Fading”.

(If you prefer the old order, it can be changed in Preferences:
“Edit menu > Preferences > Effects > Sort or Group: Sorted by effect name”)

Hoth · November 14, 2022, 2:24am

There wasn’t any Effect Menu → Fading (just Fade In and Fade Out). I went to preferences and it was set to “sort by effect name”. I tried changing that to “group by type” and that resulting in all of the effects being pointlessly lumped into a Effect → Audacity submenu. Then changed it to “default” and found the order you were describing, but then the only two options under Effect → Fading were Fade In and Fade Out.

steve · November 14, 2022, 9:44am

Do you know what sort of package Audacity is? (for example, a Snap, or Flatpak, or apt package?)

Hoth · November 14, 2022, 4:19pm

It’s the standard apt deb package.

I saw something about nyquist having changed in Audacity 3, is it possible I’ve still got the v2 versions of the plugins and that’s why they don’t work? Is there a way to remove and manually reload them with the knowledge that I’ve got the right versions?

steve · November 14, 2022, 5:12pm

Hmm, KDE Neon uses the latest Ubuntu LTS.
The latest Ubuntu LTS is Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS, which has Audacity 2.4.2.

No. Nyquist plug-ins have excellent backward compatibility. Even ancient version 1 plug-ins still work in the latest version of Audacity (there may be a few exception, but not many). Also, “Crossfade Clips” has hardly changed since I first wrote it almost 8 years ago.

As a test, please try this and let me know precisely what happens:

Launch Audacity
“Help menu > About Audacity”, what does it say the version number is?
Open the “Build information” tab (in the “About” dialog) and scroll down to “Features”.
Take a screenshot and attach it to your reply

This is what Audacity 3.2.1 looks like on my machine:

Hoth · November 14, 2022, 5:40pm

Hm, things just got even odder because while I made no changes to my package selections, I ran a system update. And that somehow reverted Audacity to 2.4.2. Which is a big problem for me because 2.4 can’t open .aup3 files so that locks me out of my projects. And version 3 isn’t appearing anywhere as an option in the package manager now. I know I didn’t get it from elsewhere because I never do and had no interest in version 3 when it was foisted upon me. It seems they put v3 in there for a while and then yanked it back, perhaps because it was broken. But I have to install v3 since I can’t open my recent projects without it.

Okay I’ve removed the old Neon/Ubuntu package, downloaded the appimage from the audacity website and installed that. That gives me a weird looking UI, but all the effects are back working, so that suffices as a solution.

steve · November 14, 2022, 5:55pm

Strange. I think there may have been a Snap packaged version of Audacity 3.2.x in the Ubuntu repository (I can’t check right now because the Ubuntu package search website is down). There was certainly a 3.x Snap version somewhere, but the last time I checked it had several serious problems due to the packaging. Personally I’m still using Audacity 2.4.2 as it works better for me (on Xubuntu 22.04) than the newer versions.