moving sections from one track to another

Hi,

Definitely a Newbie. :slight_smile:

I have a vocal track (podcast) and have been looking at different methods for debreathing the track and found a nice method on YouTube but using ProTools (http://youtu.be/W2WANQVcz6I) but without the Waves plugin.

Basically, what he is doing is highlighting a section and moving it to another track. He does this right through the file and can then work on just the breath track.

I tried this in Audacity (2.0.6) by using CTRL-D (Windows 7) to create a duplicate on another track and then re-selecting the breath in the original track and applying silence. the issue is the each CTRL-D creates a separate track and these ā€˜breathe tracks’ need then to be compiled into a single breath track for editing.

I have also tried creating a new track, sync-locking them and using clip boundaries but this seem to act like CTRL-D but removes the original (saving one process step). I guess what I a looking for is clip boundaries but with the destination being a common track.

Am I missing something and is there another way of doing this that is more efficient?

Thanks,

Steve.

There’s several ways that you can do that in Audacity, though I can’t think of anything quite as slick as he is doing in Pro Tools.

One way is to add your new ā€œbreathā€ track (ā€œTracks menu > Add Newā€). If your original track is mono, the breath track must also be mono, is stereo then stereo.

Then you can ā€œSplit Cutā€ from one track and paste in the other.
The shortcut for ā€œSplit Cutā€ is Alt+Ctrl+X.
The shortcut for paste is Ctrl+V

In order to paste in exactly the right place, use the keyboard shortcuts:
Deselect current selection: Enter (the Enter key toggles the selection on/off)
Move focus to the next track down: Down cursor
Select the new track (the track with focus has a yellow line around it): Enter
Then paste (Ctrl+V).

Putting that all together:

  • Select the breath
  • Alt+Ctrl+X
  • Enter
  • Down
  • Enter
  • Ctrl+V

Then repeat as necessary.

If you are doing a lot of this, you may want to customise the shortcut for ā€œSplit Cutā€ (Alt+Ctrl+X is a bit awkward).
To customise keyboard shortcuts, see: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/keyboard_preferences.html

Thank you for the reply, I will give that a go.

It seems like a macro could be useful for this, is this where a chain could be used?

Steve.

I don’t think that Chains can really help with this.
Have a go with the steps that I’ve suggested and let me know how you get on.
There probably are easier ways, but your question is not a common question :wink:

Thanks, I’ll give it a go. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the input and I tried this system and, yes it worked, but I found that CTRL-ALT-I (Edit>Clip Boundaries > Split New) was much easier (not the key combination, though). Once I had a dozen or so I then selected all the new tracks and rendered them into one and continued the process.

I know that macros have been discussed in other posts and it seems like a good idea, though just being able to nominate a destination track for the clip boundaries method (maybe a single or separate track toggle) would resolve this completely and would be useful for all manner of editing functions where an element needs repeated isolation.

Steve.

OK, here’s another approach:

  1. Select the ā€œbreathā€ part that you want to move.
  2. Press ā€œCtrl+Bā€, then ā€œEnterā€ to label it
    Repeat steps 1 and 2 for each ā€œbreathā€ section.

IMPORTANT:
Rewind back to the start of the track (Click anywhere on the original audio track and then press the ā€œHomeā€ key) and add one more label (ā€œCtrl+Bā€ then ā€œEnterā€).

When all of that is complete, press ā€œCtrl+Aā€ to ā€œselect Allā€,
Then from the Edit menu: ā€œEdit > Labeled Audio > Split Cutā€. (Removes all of the labeled sections.
Track menu > New Track, or New Stereo Track (the new track must be mono/stereo to match the original track).
ā€œCtrl+Vā€ to paste the cut sections into the new track.

Wow!

That works really well.

I just de-breathed a 15 minute podcast in a matter of minutes. Thank you! :slight_smile:

Steve.