Ok thank you. I will send you a sample of unedited recording.
I am on Mac OS X El Capitan.
I have two mics. One is a blue spark xlr and the other is an Oktava 319, both run through an apogee one interface. Mi have a 2012 MacBook Air.
I have a couple of published sounds but I will send a clean raw file on here. Can I send a Dropbox link?
Can I send a Dropbox link?
If you’re sure we can open it. Some DropBox accounts don’t allow downloading.
If you do that, you don’t need the 20 second limit. That’s a forum thing.
Koz
Good to know. I’ll mess with that when I get back in the house. That was one of the questions I was going to post: “What about us down here in the Mac trenches?” Between that and the poster’s clip, it should be an interesting weekend.
There was another poster with a particularly ‘crisp’ delivery. I wish I’d kept a link.
Koz
Hi
Here is a sample for you
Thank you again
I’m on Windows , not Mac, but I believe that Paul-L’s de-esser plugin , will work cross-platform on Audacity …
I believe that Paul-L’s de-esser plugin , will work cross-platform on Audacity
I believe you’re right. At least I get the expected control panel under OS-X.
And now [drum roll] how did you determine those values? And what are they? I can’t read the graphic.
I know you’re going to tell me to get some of them them from the Spectrum View. My Spectrum View (default, since I’ve never used it before) looks like attached.
Koz
I had four different DeEsser.ny files and diff seems to confirm they’re all the same. I speak enough linux to be a hazard to myself and those around me.
Correct me but it’s Version 3 with no release value? The notes seem to suggest earlier versions. Were they actually Ver 1 and Ver 2?
Koz
@dmaxfield
This clip is terrific. It’s exactly what we need.
The DeEsser filter seemed to work miracles, but we don’t need miracles as much as easy-to-use, reliable tools. So that’s where we are right now. I’m following along in my hymnal, but I don’t appear to have quite the same music.
Koz
Text is readable on this version …
The frequency range [ 5KHz -13kHz ] I got from the white-hot “sicle” part of the spectrogram.
The threshold is by trial & error . -20dB threshold may reduce the sibilance too much, try -19dB , -18dB etc.
Use the least number of frequency bands to have the desired effect , as more bands means longer processing time.
[ Annoyingly after adjusting frequency band setting , the threshold has to be readjusted ].
I got from the white-hot part of the spectrogram.
But you didn’t do it with the default spectrogram, because that looks like mine.
Koz
The threshold is by trial & error .
Maybe not so magic. This is the same problem I addressed for using Compressor.
As we go.
Koz
I’ve chosen the logarithmic frequency scale on spectrogram [ “log(f)”], yours is on linear scale.
The inverted colours on your spectrogram indicate the spectrum-editing-tool is activated …
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/spectral_selection.html
Still. How did you get a 13KHz value from a spectrogram that stops at 8. All the spectrograms on the info page stop at 8.
Koz
I must have zoomed-out* on the frequency-scale to show the full frequency range,
because the maximum frequency on my spectrogram preferences is still on 8000Hz …
[ * On Windows that’s achieved by putting the cursor on the spectrogram frequency scale, where it becomes a magnifying-glass icon, then click on right mouse-button , full audio spectrum is then shown ]
Paul’s De-Esser is I think quite slow (?) and requires quite a lot of knowledge/preparation. That was why I posted the link to MDA-VST as a possible alternative.
Gale
If you keep the number of bands low [ <6 ] then Paul’s De-Esser reasonably quick.
On my 5 year old computer, using 3 bands, the processing-time to DeEss is ~1/10th of the playback-time.
[ SpitFish does it in ~1/20th of the playback-time ].
Many moons ago I did try the MDA DeEsser VST in Audacity on Windows : it had no DeEssing effect.
[ I think I’ve tried most of the MDA VSTs , the DeEsser was the only one which has never worked, in my experience ].
That was why I posted the link to MDA-VST as a possible alternative.
So we progress. I’m modeling Clueless User. If I can’t figure it out/sort it, normal users are going to be stunningly lost.
I’ve said multiple times, slow is not a deal killer if it produces a desirable result. Trebor’s patch appears to be a desirable result.
Koz
Works quite well. It’s a little buggy on 2.1.2 and Mavericks.
When you disable it with the checkbox to listen back to the original, and then re-enable it, it seems to miss one click. The “playback” button stays highlighted and the playback doesn’t start. If you click on any other button, playback starts again and when you stop playback, it executes the previously clicked button.
I think it’s the plugin itself, as it doesn’t work at all, bridged in Reaper (it’s a 32 bitter). There’s no preview, nor an enable button…
Easily worked around. Now to Paul’s de-esser.
Back out to the 10,000 foot view briefly, once you sample a vocal crash and get it to sound right, you can select the whole performance and it will go down the whole thing and suppress all similar crashes right? What’s the longest performance it will correct?
Koz