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Keyboard combinations

Post by chrzaszcz » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:29 pm

I was trying to type in the title of a song with a "¡" in it, and I found that typing anything in with keyboard combinations that make use of the "alt" button (e.g. "á", alt + e, a) can be difficult. It usually won't let you type anything at all, but sometimes, it just works for some reason.

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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by steve » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:57 am

What is the exact three-section version number of Audacity? (look in: "Audacity menu > About Audacity")
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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by chrzaszcz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:21 am

2.1.2

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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by chrzaszcz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:27 am

This was in a label, by the way, not for metadata.

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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by steve » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:58 am

First thing: it is not recommended to use special characters for file names. Doing so can make the files fail in some applications / devices.

Second point: Audacity has a lot of pre-defined keyboard shortcuts (see: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/keyb ... rence.html). Attempting to use Alt+character is very likely to collide with one of these key bindings.

In Audacity 2.1.2, special characters (such as "á") should work in labels, but it may be necessary to copy and paste the text rather than trying to type it directly into the label.
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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by chrzaszcz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:13 pm

I don't have a lot of files with special characters in their names, but the few that I do have seem to work fine on Macs and iPhones and iPods. You can easily type special characters directly into text boxes for metadata, so can Audacity be made to recognize text boxes for labels in the same way? By the way, I figured out why it sometimes works: if you hit alt + u (¨), you can type in a special character immediately afterwards.

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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by chrzaszcz » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:19 pm

Can it?

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Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:12 am

chrzaszcz wrote:Can it?
It looks like no-one knew the answer, in which case please allow some time for it to be tested.

In 2.1.2 and 2.1.3-alpha, diacritic characters (produced with Option key combinations or by long pressing a character then choosing from a context menu) both work in Metadata Editor and file open/save dialogues. Neither work in labels in 2.1.2/2.1.3 alpha. Labels are not a standard text box.

The option key combinations worked with a bug in 2.1.1, that the first press of the option key combination did not produce the diacritic, but if you repeated the combination then two instances of the diacritic appeared. You could then type the character to which the diacritic was to be applied, which would appear as the second character. The first diacritic remained behind as it was.

I'll add this feature lack/partial regression to our bug tracker presently, but without a "proper" text box it may not be an easy fix.

If you want 2.1.1 you can obtain "2.1.1 screen-reader" from http://www.audacityteam.org/download/mac.


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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by chrzaszcz » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:04 pm

If it's any help, it works just fine in 2.1.0.

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Re: Keyboard combinations

Post by Gale Andrews » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:29 am

chrzaszcz wrote:If it's any help, it works just fine in 2.1.0.
2.1.0 has the same problem on Sierra for me as 2.1.1. I agree it works in those Audacity versions if you accept that the option combination shows you no feedback of the diacritic chosen, and you then type the required character. However you can see from using option combinations in Audacity's Metadata Editor and Open/Save dialogues that you should be shown the chosen diacritic.


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