Audacity suffers from a drawback: every cycle of file-open,-edit,-save bloats up a file unlike the same with ffmpeg

Regarding:

There are already tools that partially address my needs, but their absence so far as Completeness is concerned means that there remains an opportunity to develop such an interface.

LosslessCut limitation

  • No true waveform editing (sample-level)
  • Only overview waveform + segment marks
  • Designed for packet/frame cuts, not DSP editing

mp3splt-gtk

What actually gives waveform + no re-encode (closest):

  • :check_mark: real waveform view
  • :check_mark: no re-encode (MP3/OGG)
  • :check_mark: cut + export segments

:multiply: primitive
:multiply: limited precision (frame-bound)
:multiply: Moreover, I don’t use mp3 format. Stopped using it long back. Has .ogg support, but frame-bound precision should make it limited.

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I agree with you:

There are already tools that partially address my needs, but their absence so far as Completeness is concerned means that there remains an opportunity to develop such an interface.

Thank you, for taking the time to spell this out because I agree with your experience as described. In fact. there are several issues I don’t bother to elaborate further due to all of the deflections and excuses. Its irrelavent or unuseful to reply if you can’t recreate the bug as defined in the original post. Only then, acknowledge or deny the bug or offer a workaround that improves the results without destroying the workflow.

I appreciate a help forum and peoples willingness to participate, but alas, denial doesn’t help folks. Audacity is free, its got a lot of problems overall, but problems like this are why I can’t use the application for very long without just giving up. There may be an answer or workaround but far more bandwidth is wasted on denials and deflections overall, when they should be the basis for software quality assurance.

That said, thank you all for trying here. I lack the patience.

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By my long experience with life & looking into intricacies related to compartmentalised human life, programming is a huge resource-draining vocation for a human neural network. It demands such hyperfocus for an extended period of time & thus, enormous brain resources, the human brain, being resource deficient for most of its evolutionary lifetime, can’t cope up.

The human mind works in bursts, also gives up very easily without recurring incentives. I for instance could have never been a programmer. Even if I have original ideas from time to time. Only minds that are equipped to so much hyperfocus that it loses itself in the fractal complexities & wilderness, could be real programmers, but the minds need a good language skill & the skill to be garrulous too, to comprehend what the user is trying to get across.

Programming is a thankless job most of the time. An inventing/discovering physicist has ensured to be known forever, but there are hundreds of thousands of such inventing programmers who have contributed new inputs & pathways, but none knows them, except for the programmers in that specific & contiguous sub-sector of applications. True, physicists invented a computer & extended its functionality from time to time, but it is the programmers who expand the horizon. The numerical comparison of only a few physicists versus a million programmers who have nothing to do with that level of physics is stunning & mind boggling.

So my view is to program myself to have enough empathy & respect for programmers. Of course, a lot are just piggybacks & disrupters, but with experience one can easily differentiate between a real programmer, like I know Mr. Steve for sure, with whom I have interacted productively to have my doubts & problems solved, and fluff. I am concerned that Mr. Steve can’t easily be replaced.

Given that so much money is attracted by accomplished programmers engaged mostly in DBD “proprietary” (read Secretive to simply hide the DBD status) work, it is GODLY that the FOSS system even exists, and definitely an application as complex as Audacity. I would rather focus on ignoring the chaff, & suggest that if not, create such an environment that they don’t even dream of wandering close.

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I have placed my request to the maintainers & developers of the newer editions of Audacity, but I am a little sad that I can’t reach Mr. Steve. I would have liked to keep in touch with a real problem solver of an esoteric level, but he doesn’t seem to be around, otherwise he would have advised me. The subject line is designed to be responsive to string search:
Tool to cut section(s), copy file without repeated decoding encoding thus bloating; a tool analogous to ffmpeg codelines given below #10798

Belated addition:
Checked the program, mp3splt-gtk. It is nothing in comparison to Audacity. If Audacity is the modern Homo Sapiens Sapiens, then mp3splt-gtk is a monkey jumping from branches to branches. Audacity is as complete as can be.

So a request to creators & maintainers to include this cut without decoding re-encoding part, similar to the afore-mentioned ffmpeg line:

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