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Re: output sound volume

Post by cyrano » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:19 am

I'm beginning to wonder if it's not time to do a clean install of Snow...

Something is reproducing the error in the plist files. That's like wrestling a bear. Could it be Soundflower? Any chance there's a leftover from a JackOSX install?

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Re: output sound volume

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:10 pm

You could uninstall and reinstall Soundflower for sure. In the /Applications/Soundflower/ folder, double-click "Uninstall Soundflower.scpt". In the window that opens, press the "Run" button. You should see "Done!" in the results, indicating that the uninstallation completed satisfactorily.

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Re: output sound volume

Post by rtomasov » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:34 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:
rtomasov wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote: Do you still have to select the USB headset in Audacity before the headset can be heard at all in other applications?
You could perhaps repeat the plist file deletions then reboot, then observe if the problem only starts after the plist files are recreated.
Gale
Yes, I do.
So does the problem only start after the plist files are recreated? It's a thin chance, but it might be possible to edit the plist files. You would not do that in TextEdit though.
Gale
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Now (today), I don't have to select the USB headset in Audacity before the headset can be heard in other applications.
Can't tell why it is now correct.
BTW, do you remember I couldn't upload the .cfg file either in .rtf or in .cfg format?
Just tried to upload it as a .txt file but it is not accepted either.
Maybe you could tell me how to edit the plist files if necessary.
It is a pity you cannot read the .cfg file; I believe it would help you on knowing what's happening.
I don't know which kind of file can be uploaded.
Thank you

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Re: output sound volume

Post by rtomasov » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:39 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:You could uninstall and reinstall Soundflower for sure. In the /Applications/Soundflower/ folder, double-click "Uninstall Soundflower.scpt". In the window that opens, press the "Run" button. You should see "Done!" in the results, indicating that the uninstallation completed satisfactorily.
Gale
What would uninstalling sunflower do?
I don't believe sunflower is the culprit.
Please read my latest reply to you about 5 minutes ago.
Thanks

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Re: output sound volume

Post by rtomasov » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:46 pm

cyrano wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if it's not time to do a clean install of Snow...
Something is reproducing the error in the plist files. That's like wrestling a bear. Could it be Soundflower? Any chance there's a leftover from a JackOSX install?
Please read my latest reply to Gale Andrews.
I don't believe soundflower is the culprit.
I've just been able (today, 15 minutes ago) to listen through the headset and through the internal speakers without having to go to Audacity to change the output.
I've done a clean install of OSX 10.6.8 a couple of weeks ago.
What is a JackOSX install?
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Re: output sound volume

Post by cyrano » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:18 pm

Jack is a Linux audio router, just like SoundFlower. Often, people who have installed SoundFlower have tried JackOSX or one of the other versions for Mac before. Removing it correctly is not always easy for most users.

Having both SoundFlower and Jack is a sure way to trouble.

But as you have a clean install from a few weeks ago and never heard about Jack, that's not the reason why you have this strange error...

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Re: output sound volume

Post by rtomasov » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:29 pm

cyrano wrote:Jack is a Linux audio router, just like SoundFlower. Often, people who have installed SoundFlower have tried JackOSX or one of the other versions for Mac before. Removing it correctly is not always easy for most users
Having both SoundFlower and Jack is a sure way to trouble.
But as you have a clean install from a few weeks ago and never heard about Jack, that's not the reason why you have this strange error...
And, I don't have JackOSX!

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Re: output sound volume

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:20 pm

rtomasov wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:You could uninstall and reintstall Soundflower for sure. In the /Applications/Soundflower/ folder, double-click "Uninstall Soundflower.scpt". In the window that opens, press the "Run" button. You should see "Done!" in the results, indicating that the uninstallation completed satisfactorily.
Gale
What would uninstalling sunflower do?
I don't believe sunflower is the culprit.
Nobody has a rational explanation for what is happening so you may have to think a little outside the box.

Soundflower is a kernel extension so has considerable scope to make system changes. We don't even know which version of Soundflower you have or whether it is appropriate for Snow Leopard. Early versions of Soundflower were very buggy.


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Re: output sound volume

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:51 pm

rtomasov wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:
rtomasov wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote: Do you still have to select the USB headset in Audacity before the headset can be heard at all in other applications?
You could perhaps repeat the plist file deletions then reboot, then observe if the problem only starts after the plist files are recreated.
Gale
Yes, I do.
So does the problem only start after the plist files are recreated? It's a thin chance, but it might be possible to edit the plist files. You would not do that in TextEdit though.
Gale
Now (today), I don't have to select the USB headset in Audacity before the headset can be heard in other applications.
Can't tell why it is now correct.
Well you could open Finder and check if the plist files you deleted have been recreated.

If they have been recreated, you can copy them to your Desktop in case they come in handy.
rtomasov wrote:BTW, do you remember I couldn't upload the .cfg file either in .rtf or in .cfg format?
Just tried to upload it as a .txt file but it is not accepted either.
Text files are allowed if they have .txt extension. Files with .cfg extension cannot be allowed for security reasons. If you ever want to post audacity.cfg, make a copy and rename it in Finder to audacity.txt.

I see no strong reason to disallow .rtf extension so I have enabled it.
rtomasov wrote:Maybe you could tell me how to edit the plist files if necessary.
TextWrangler would work, as the plist files are XML rather than binary. Let's go into that only if we need to.
rtomasov wrote:It is a pity you cannot read the .cfg file; I believe it would help you on knowing what's happening.
It would not help with the strange audio problem that seemingly you alone are having.


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Re: output sound volume

Post by rtomasov » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:23 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:
rtomasov wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:You could uninstall and reintstall Soundflower for sure. In the /Applications/Soundflower/ folder, double-click "Uninstall Soundflower.scpt". In the window that opens, press the "Run" button. You should see "Done!" in the results, indicating that the uninstallation completed satisfactorily.
Gale
What would uninstalling sunflower do?
I don't believe sunflower is the culprit.
Nobody has a rational explanation for what is happening so you may have to think a little outside the box.

Soundflower is a kernel extension so has considerable scope to make system changes. We don't even know which version of Soundflower you have or whether it is appropriate for Snow Leopard. Early versions of Soundflower were very buggy.

Gale
Soundflower is v1.6.6b which I've got from Audacity's website.
OK, I'll uninstall it and see what happens. Will let you know.

Don't you believe it could help your reading the .cfg file?
You would need to tell me how to upload it.

Thank you

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