downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

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downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by allencmcbride » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:48 pm

Do I need to delete my preferences, or do anything else special, if I downgrade from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7? (I know I can't have both installed at once, and I can't think of any dangers from having both installed that wouldn't also be present if I went back and forth without deleting preferences or something.) --Allen

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by kozikowski » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:20 pm

The only safe way to change versions is to take out all the support files.

Trash Mac Audacity Preferences
http://audacityteam.org/forum/viewtopic ... =10#p34670

The new install should ask you "English?" when you first start it. If it doesn't, you're still standing on old preferences -- and problems.

Why are you downgrading? the last 1.3.8 I used under Leopard worked really well. I still use 1.3.7 under Tiger and that one still has oddball problems like it won't close and you can't manually put in noise reduction settings. It may also have problems importing large AIFF files. That was a serious problem that was fixed later.

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by allencmcbride » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:04 am

So trashing all support files applies to upgrading as well as downgrading?

The reason I wanted to downgrade was because when I click on the timeline in 1.3.8, rather than playing from that point, it plays from wherever the cursor is. I was thinking I should report it to Leland as a bug, too, but if I was supposed to trash support files on upgrading, maybe that's the culprit.

And by "all support files", you don't really mean all, do you? Surely I can keep the LAME and ffmpeg libraries?

Thanks,
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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by kozikowski » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:04 am

<<<Surely I can keep the LAME and ffmpeg libraries?>>>

Only if they're appropriate to the target version, keeping in mind there was a grand shift in the lame configurations recently, like handful of weeks ago.

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by allencmcbride » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:14 am

Okay, good to know. So for relatively recent versions, I delete...
/Applications/audacity
~/Library/Application Support/audacity
/usr/local/lib/audacity
...and then I'm done, right? That's every trace of Audacity? I feel like months ago I saw a centralized place where someone listed every trace of Audacity, but now I can't find it.

Thanks,
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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by allencmcbride » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:29 am

This is interesting... I just tried re-installing (properly) and I find I only get the "English?" message if I also trash my 1.2.5 preferences. I thought the two weren't supposed to interfere with each other at all? --Allen

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by waxcylinder » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:37 am

allencmcbride wrote:This is interesting... I just tried re-installing (properly) and I find I only get the "English?" message if I also trash my 1.2.5 preferences. I thought the two weren't supposed to interfere with each other at all? --Allen
My understanding (which is based on Windows and not MAC) is that if you have previously installed 1.2.x and not cleaned out the preferences - then when you install 1.3.x Audacity will preconfigure the new 1.3 preferences file with the 1.2 settings - this was partly done, I believe, to save folks from having to furtle around for a fresh LAME install.

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by kozikowski » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:41 pm

<<<I thought the two weren't supposed to interfere with each other at all? >>>

I don't know anywhere it says that. What it says is that you can install both of them on your machine without the machine turning into a molten puddle of slag on the living room floor. They will both be useful, but you are still absolutely forbidden from running both at the same time. If you somehow manage to do that, they will highly interfere with each other.

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by allencmcbride » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:01 pm

Thanks for the responses. I'm starting to think we ought to make a page on the wiki that lays out what you do and don't need to do to change versions safely. For example, I just saw this post from Gale, which implies that under at least some circumstances you can have 1.3.7 and 1.3.8 installed at the same time: http://audacityteam.org/forum/viewtopic ... 888#p37888

I'm probably not the only one confused about this. --Allen

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Re: downgrading from 1.3.8 to 1.3.7?

Post by kozikowski » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:25 pm

Just thinking about this a bit more, that wiki submission would be a grand place to park all the instructions and software tools you need to use to remove damaged 1.2 preferences from the Dreaded Windows Registry. Yes, there are spells to do that when Widows fails to un-install the software.

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