Noise Reduction

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by kozikowski » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:00 am

I'm just now reading that again.
I wasn`t able to keep the guitars separate and record the vocal at the same time.
We expect you to be able to record single, isolated tracks for each pass of the performance.

Guide Track
Guitar 1
Guitar 2
Vocal 1
Vocal 2.

Mix and match, filter and throw away as you see fit. MUTE and SOLO to hear the ones you want. Audacity defaults to playing them all at once.

If your Audacity is forcing a mixdown as you record, it's set wrong.

Audacity > Edit > Preferences > Recording > [_] Playthrough (de-select)

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by lonepilgrim » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:41 am

It`s a Go Daddy website...as they put it "no skills...no problem" it`s all mine

so far no arguments..I`m an ok guitarist..that`s about it...the general idea is try to get some decent tunes up and hopefully get a gig of some kind..no real plan other than that..the person I`ve been playing music with is an excellent songwriter however the music business doesn`t exactly encourage creativity..i`m trying to get him some exposure as well..he needs the money a lot more than I do

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by lonepilgrim » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:49 am

kozikowski wrote:I'm just now reading that again.
I wasn`t able to keep the guitars separate and record the vocal at the same time.
We expect you to be able to record single, isolated tracks for each pass of the performance.

Guide Track
Guitar 1
Guitar 2
Vocal 1
Vocal 2.

Mix and match, filter and throw away as you see fit. MUTE and SOLO to hear the ones you want. Audacity defaults to playing them all at once.

If your Audacity is forcing a mixdown as you record, it's set wrong.

Audacity > Edit > Preferences > Recording > [_] Playthrough (de-select)

Koz

I understand that..on my own I`m ok with overdubs..with Eric it`s different..he has health issues and the process with him has to be as natural as possible or it`s not going to happen..we play and sing the songs live and try to get thru them without making too many mistakes..it`s not really meant to be perfect..I may add some texture to some of it but the guitar and vocals has to be recorded together or it`s just not going to sound right.

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by cyrano » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:02 am

kozikowski wrote:
condenser like the Behringer B5 (70$)
Do you have such a microphone?

Koz
I have 6 working/original ones and 2 that are being repaired and possibly modded.

All the LDC's, except maybe two are goin' out the door.

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by lonepilgrim » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:37 am

The Shure is the only working mic I have atm..if you think a better mic will make a difference I guess I need to get one..for the most part what I will be recording in the future is going to be guitar instrumentals only..I prefer an acoustic sound for rhythm..my electric sounds pretty good just plugged into the mixer although I have a multi effects unit I was eventually planning on using however for the most part I`m trying to keep everything as simple as possible.

The biggest single issue I`m having is space..I don`t have a good place to work..I live in an apartment with an elderly lady next door who doesn`t appreciate me playing thru an amp..I would prefer to plug in and mic the amp but it`s not going to happen here.

If you want to sell one of the mics give me a price and a model # so I can read up on it..I didn`t really come here to buy anything but get information..I appreciate the help.

It`s getting late here..time for me to sleep..thanks

Doug

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by kozikowski » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:54 am

You get less and less Newbie as we go. I don't think you need a whole lot of help. I think you got most of this nailed.

Two different threads in one stack.

@LP I don't think that was an offer for sale. Forum sales is not a good idea. I wanted to get a recommendation from someone who actually owned and used the equipment and was happy. Even better if they're worn out. That's my joke description of successful tools: There's no paint left, you can't read the markings any more and you can't use it right now because it's out on a job.

That's a working mixer. I'm not the original owner and I had to paste a diagram of the knob labels on the bottom.

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@cyrano I own a C1 microphone and it has significant shortcomings.

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by cyrano » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:55 am

kozikowski wrote:@cyrano I own a C1 microphone and it has significant shortcomings.
I've never tried those. It's an SDC in an LDC housing, IIRC. What's wrong with it?

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by kozikowski » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:19 am

It's an SDC in an LDC housing. What's wrong with it?
I swear I'm going to take it apart.

Plugged into a Behringer UM2 preamp, it produces significantly non-linear waves. I put that down to the UM2, but now I'm not so sure.

The examples.....are not on this machine.

So it's a tiny microphone in a weighted case. Good to know. It has great "hand-feel" when you take it out of the box. As long as all you want to do is lift and touch it, it's great.

That explains some of the reviews. They said things like, "It's definitely a microphone."

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by cyrano » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:58 am

Quality control is or has been a problem with Behringer. You should check for dirt on the wiring of the capsule first. And then the high impedance part of the board. Even some leftover solder flux is enough to cause all kinds of problems.

I would also replace the ceramic disc capacitor with a real good one, as that is the main entry point for the signal. And ceramic caps are a bit microphonic.

It is an SDC (14 mm), I checked recordinghacks.com:

http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Behringer/C-1

But there are probably several generations...

If you can't repair it, it's still a nice body to put another capsule in. Primo, fi. The board should be useable. The J202 FET is a good one, if it's genuine.

Can't find schematics, tho...

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Re: Noise Reduction

Post by steve » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:14 am

cyrano wrote:It's an SDC in an LDC housing, IIRC
it has a 16mm diaphragm.
I've not used one either, but the reviews are generally good, and it comes with a 3 year manufacturer's guarantee.

The C-1U is a USB version, and like many other budget USB mics, it has fixed gain, so it's likely to be noisy for recording quiet voices and may distort with very loud voices.
Also, it does not appear to have a headphone socket, so not suitable for overdub recording with Audacity on Windows (unless you build Audacity from source and enable ASIO support for low latency monitoring).
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