Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

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Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by One Brain Cell » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:51 pm

Hi all,

I've been using Audacity for about six years. I upgraded my copy the other week to 2.1.2 on OSX El Capitan (Version 10.11.3).

With this new release I suddenly have no 'Window' to choose from in the top menu bar i.e. It should have the following options:
  • File
    Edit
    View
    Transport
    Tracks
    Generate
    Effect
    Analyse
    Window
    Help
And now Window is gone. I've searched around in preferences, but this is a stock copy of Audacity 2.1.2. I've done nothing to it. Even using the keyboard shortcut to jump between open windows does nothing (and I've got three Audacity windows open at the moment).

Any help greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by cyrano » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:03 pm

That's explained in the release notes. I'll admit those can be a little hard to find, so I'll provide you with a link:

http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Release_Notes_2.1.2
(OS X) The "Window" menu is not currently available.

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by One Brain Cell » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:43 pm

Thank you for the reply Cyrano. I've never seen the Window menu fail to be present in any previous versions, so it really threw me for a loop. Hope it comes back soon as I'm usually flipping between 10+ windows. I'll keep an eye on the updates for when it comes back in but for now i'll use another program.

Many thanks.

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by waxcylinder » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:21 am

One Brain Cell wrote: ... I've never seen the Window menu fail to be present in any previous versions, so it really threw me for a loop.
Can you imagaine how it threw me - I acquired my first ever Mac on Saturday (for Audacity QA testing) get 2.1.2 installed run it and switched to full screen window - poooof! menu bar disappears. Reboot and then fire up Audacity in reduced window and happily menu bar back at the top of the screen. <phew>

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by rachalmers » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:41 am

waxcylinder wrote:
One Brain Cell wrote: ... I've never seen the Window menu fail to be present in any previous versions, so it really threw me for a loop.
Can you imagaine how it threw me - I acquired my first ever Mac on Saturday (for Audacity QA testing) get 2.1.2 installed run it and switched to full screen window - poooof! menu bar disappears. Reboot and then fire up Audacity in reduced window and happily menu bar back at the top of the screen. <phew>

WC

Did you try scrolling your mouse pointer right to the top of the window and leaving it hover there for a moment. The menu bar drops down again becoming visible. To bring it back to normal, tap the green button again, in the top left..

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by cyrano » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:56 am

I've tried both solutions. Neither seems to work for me...

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by waxcylinder » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:01 pm

rachalmers wrote:Did you try scrolling your mouse pointer right to the top of the window and leaving it hover there for a moment. The menu bar drops down again becoming visible. To bring it back to normal, tap the green button again, in the top left..
Oooh - I'll try that (I'm still coming to terms with the menu bar being detached from the app and being at the top of the screen - and being the menu bar for the app that is actually active).

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:15 pm

waxcylinder wrote:
rachalmers wrote:Did you try scrolling your mouse pointer right to the top of the window and leaving it hover there for a moment. The menu bar drops down again becoming visible. To bring it back to normal, tap the green button again, in the top left..
Oooh - I'll try that (I'm still coming to terms with the menu bar being detached from the app and being at the top of the screen - and being the menu bar for the app that is actually active).
I understand that it was a limitation in wxWidgets 2.8 (and so Audacity 2.1.1 and earlier) that pressing the green button did not go full screen and hide the Audacity menu bar.

Anyway, the missing Window menu is nothing to do with what you experienced.


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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:21 pm

One Brain Cell wrote:Even using the keyboard shortcut to jump between open windows does nothing (and I've got three Audacity windows open at the moment).
The keyboard shortcut COMMAND and ` (backtick) works for me in 2.1.2.

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Re: Where have the Windows gone in 2.1.2?

Post by cyrano » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:23 pm

That's a particularly nasty shortcut for anyone on a non-English keyboard. It's probably the single most confusing character on any keyboard and in a lot of programming languages on any OS. Even the spell checker for English doesn't know the word "backtick"...

It's disabled in some languages and the key for the backtick or backquote is in different locations.

If it doesn't even work in the Finder, you need to go to System preferences, Keyboard, Key combinations and enable it before it can work in Audacity.

It works for me in Mavericks, with Audacity 2.1.2 on a Belgian Azerty keyboard, set to "French numerical".

Note that it's the key with the UK Pound sign on top, not the "accent grave" (not present on Belgian azerty) or "accent aigu" (under the number 4), on a Belgian Macbook Pro keyboard.

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