preferences clavinova using midi cables

[soren]

Hello
Windows 7 - audacity version 2.1.2 - .exe
I just started with audacity. I'm trying to connect my Yamaha clavinova to my laptop, using a cable with on the one end two midi connectors that go into the piano (midi out and midi in), which on the other end join into one usb that goes into the laptop.
Using this configuration, I don't know at all how to set the preferences in Audacity and I couldn't find it in the FAQ. Can anybody help me with that ?
Many thanks in advance
Soren

[steve]

Audacity can't record MIDI. Audacity only records audio (MIDI is not audio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI)

To record the Clavinova in Audacity you need to connect an audio output from the Clavinova to a "stereo line input" of the computer. See here for more information: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/fa ... #keyboards

[kozikowski]

And if the instrument doesn't have a stereo audio connection, you do what I do and use the headphone connection. I split it off to speakers and headphones, too, so I can hear what I'm doing in real time. If your computer has no stereo audio input (many don't) then you can use a stereo USB device such as the Behringer UCA-202. substitute your instrument for my mixer.



http://www.kozco.com/tech/organfinale.mp3

Koz

[kozikowski]

The Behringer is certified to work in overdubbing mode should you decide to record sound-on-sound performances.

Koz

[soren]

Thanks everybody for your answers !
I'm now trying to do this with the AUX OUT of the clavinova, so using two thick jacks (if that's the correct name for those things) on the side of the piano, and these go into my laptop through one smaller jack, into the microphone entrance. When I listen to the recording, sound is still not good and I can hear every sound around me. So audacity is not just recording the sound from the piano through the cables, but also all the sounds in the room.
What am I doing wrong now ?
Maybe something is wrong with the options in the program itself ? The options remain grey, so I can't even change anything.

[cyrano]

Audacity isn't doing that. The Windows mixer is.

First look at possible sources and disable what you don't need, such as the laptop's internal mic:

http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Mixer ... es#vistacp

Then launch Audacity and select the line input as your recording source:

http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Mixer ... on_Windows

Then record again and see how the sound turns out.

[kozikowski]

Missed one. Chances are good the high volume signal at the headphone connection is going to overload the Mic-In of the laptop. That sounds crunchy or sometimes you get blue waves that only go half-way up. They stop at 50%. If you don't have a blue Stereo Line-In (most machines don't), then you're stuck with a USB interface.

You might well think you can just reduce the volume of the keyboard, but many people find the volume control runs the thickness of tissue paper up from all the way off to force this to work. And then you still only get half volume.

Much better with the USB adapter.

Koz

[soren]

ref Cyrano's message:
*) internal mic: I tried to disable the laptop's internal mic, following the links in your message. Thing is my Windows is in French so sometimes I have to guess my way through things, but I did this: I disabled/disconnected something called “microphone network ("réseau de microphones") IDT High Definition Audio CODEC”. You think that's the internal mic ? I'm going the do a recording, see what it sounds like.
*) recording source: I tried to select the line input as the recording source.
What I have in my preferences now is:
Interface
host: MME, using portaudio V19-devel
Playback
device: speakers / entry line IDT
Recording
device: microphone / entry line IDT
channels: 2 (stereo)
I'm going to record some piano now.

ref Koz' message:
I'm not using the headphone connection on the piano but the AUX L and R, using those thick jack sockets (6,35 mm). Will I still have the problem you're mentioning and therefore need the USB adaptor ?

tx
Soren

[soren]

Strange: when I have Audacity on Rec and Pause, the mic volume signal (which now should indicate only the volume of the piano I suppose) vibrates constantly and reaches 54, when I'm NOT playing.
Is this normal ? I suppose it's not supposed to be like that.
I'm using the options and cables as described in my last message.

Koz: about the USB-adaptor (the Behringer), I can't use that to connect my piano's Midi signal to the computer right ? Even using the Behringer, the Midi signal remains something that Audacity can't read right ?

[Gale Andrews]

ref Cyrano's message:
*) internal mic: I tried to disable the laptop's internal mic, following the links in your message. Thing is my Windows is in French so sometimes I have to guess my way through things, but I did this: I disabled/disconnected something called “microphone network ("réseau de microphones") IDT High Definition Audio CODEC”. You think that's the internal mic ?

Yes that is the "microphone array" (internal microphone).

I'm going the do a recording, see what it sounds like.
*) recording source: I tried to select the line input as the recording source.
What I have in my preferences now is:
Interface
host: MME, using portaudio V19-devel
Playback
device: speakers / entry line IDT
Recording
device: microphone / entry line IDT
channels: 2 (stereo)
I'm going to record some piano now.
[...]I'm not using the headphone connection on the piano but the AUX L and R

So those AUX are red and white (RCA)?

Even if that microphone is a stereo input and you connected an RCA to stereo TRS cable to that input, it will almost certainly not sound as good as connecting to the UCA 202 or similar interface.


Gale