Speed change error

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geosv
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Speed change error

Post by geosv » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:41 am

Audacity has a program error in the way it does speed change. Say I want to change from 100 sec to 110s. That's a 10% change. -10%. But Aud increases it by 11 sec. It figures 10% of 110s is 10%.
Basic arithmetic logic. Or maybe you are using a different valid logic.
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Re: Speed change error

Post by Robert J. H. » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:42 am

geosv wrote:Audacity has a program error in the way it does speed change. Say I want to change from 100 sec to 110s. That's a 10% change. -10%. But Aud increases it by 11 sec. It figures 10% of 110s is 10%.
Basic arithmetic logic. Or maybe you are using a different valid logic.
All versions including 2.1.1.
The maths behind the Audacity speed change are correct.
The time expands inverse proportionally:
100 s * 100 % / 90 % = 100 s * 1/0.9 = 100 * 1.1111.... = 111.111 s.

This is why the change speed effect has additional fields, it facilitates those calculations because you can choose between factor, target duration, Rpm and per cent.

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Re: Speed change error

Post by geosv » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:18 am

Sounds like confusion between change BY% versus change TO%.
If I want to change 100 by 50% that gives 150.
But you change it TO 50% which gives it 200s.
Does everyone feel Audacity is clear enuf on this for users?

I'm thinking that when we say we want to decrease speed by 20%, that is not the same as saying to make it 80%.

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Re: Speed change error

Post by geosv » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:34 pm

When we give you a negative percent you must ADD that to 100 to get your factor.

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Re: Speed change error

Post by steve » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:58 pm

geosv wrote:Does everyone feel Audacity is clear enuf on this for users?
We were aware that some users found the "Percent change" control too difficult, which is why I added the "Speed multiplier".
Do you find the "Speed multiplier" easy and clear enough?
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Re: Speed change error

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:51 pm

The speed change percent is inverse because increasing length reduces speed and vice versa.

The speed change percent is what Audacity acts on, whichever measure you change in the effect.


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