2.1.1 Hangs and/or Crashes on Sound Activated Recording

[cmac185]

Glad we tracked down the problem.

As an interim solution could you put that file somewhere I could get it so I can put it into that directory and hopefully 2.1.2A would run?

Cliff

[Gale Andrews]

Glad we tracked down the problem.

As an interim solution could you put that file somewhere I could get it so I can put it into that directory and hopefully 2.1.2A would run?

Probably no point until Leland works out exactly what is missing. I might give you one file then another would be reported missing.

I'll post when there is a fix.


Gale

[Gale Andrews]

Glad we tracked down the problem.

As an interim solution could you put that file somewhere I could get it so I can put it into that directory and hopefully 2.1.2A would run?

Probably no point until Leland works out exactly what is missing. I might give you one file then another would be reported missing.

I'll post when there is a fix.

Hi Cliff

Can you please try this one: http://www.audacity.homerow.net/index.p ... c86c262%2F ?


Gale

[cmac185]

Gale,

The new version of 2.1.2A started just fine. Tried different levels of Sound Activated Recording without issues. From what I see all is ok. Is there anything else I could test for you?

BTW, I went to Add/Remove Plugins and disabled all because I had multiple ones and I wanted to get rid of the duplicates since I have 2.1.0, 2.1.1 and now 2.1.2 all available. At that point it locked up and I couldn't do anything in Audacity. Almost all menu items were grayed out including Add/Remove Plugins. I had to Force Quit the program. Went to 2.1.1 and re-enabled the plugins I wanted and then 2.1.2A was ok. This happens everytime I try it. If I open 2.1.2A with no Effects enabled then the Add/Remove Plugins menu item is available and I can re-enable the plugins, however 2.1.2A still locks up after I click Enable and Ok and the Effects Menu shows no Effects. Force Quitting then restarting 2.1.2A then shows the Effects and all is ok. Seems like a problem somewhere. I tried disabling all then enabling one and it still hung though it showed all the effects grayed out in the Effects menu so maybe it has to have some certain ones enabled to run.

Another observation related to Audacity in general, not just 2.1.2A. The Tool Tips are nice, but could the display position of the text be moved to above the tip of the cursor? Where it is now the text is underneath the cursor and some of the text can not be read. I've got a fairly large cursor and it blocks out quit a bit of the text on the shorter ones. Putting it anywhere not under the cursor would be helpful.

Hope all this helps.

Cliff

[Gale Andrews]

The new version of 2.1.2A started just fine. Tried different levels of Sound Activated Recording without issues. From what I see all is ok. Is there anything else I could test for you?

Thanks very much for testing.

In 2.1.2-alpha on Yosemite, are you still getting prominent flashing of toolbars when you import files by any method, or when you save or export? Do you avoid crashes working with files? I understand the flickering may not occur on El Capitan in any case.

If you were to relax some of the precautions I think you take against crashes when you want to record, does 2.1.2-alpha crash? I know you would not want to risk important recordings but you could perhaps test by turning AppNap on again, leaving Audacity idle between recordings, letting the display sleep, or changing to another desktop while Audacity is running, then plug in your second monitor.

Note that we have not done anything to specifically address crashes or flickering. We have updated to wxWidgets 3.0.2 which we think could make Audacity more stable with the latest versions of OS X.

BTW, I went to Add/Remove Plugins and disabled all because I had multiple ones and I wanted to get rid of the duplicates since I have 2.1.0, 2.1.1 and now 2.1.2 all available. At that point it locked up and I couldn't do anything in Audacity. Almost all menu items were grayed out including Add/Remove Plugins. I had to Force Quit the program. Went to 2.1.1 and re-enabled the plugins I wanted and then 2.1.2A was ok. This happens everytime I try it. If I open 2.1.2A with no Effects enabled then the Add/Remove Plugins menu item is available and I can re-enable the plugins, however 2.1.2A still locks up after I click Enable and Ok and the Effects Menu shows no Effects. Force Quitting then restarting 2.1.2A then shows the Effects and all is ok. Seems like a problem somewhere. I tried disabling all then enabling one and it still hung though it showed all the effects grayed out in the Effects menu so maybe it has to have some certain ones enabled to run.

Thanks again. Quitting Audacity, deleting ~/Library/Application Support/audacity/pluginregistry.cfg then restarting Audacity is usually the most convenient way to remove duplicate plugins and start over again with the default shipped and enabled effects. But it seems even after deleting pluginregistry.cfg, I can't add or remove any effects in that session without having to force quit.

So we'll try to fix that.

Another observation related to Audacity in general, not just 2.1.2A. The Tool Tips are nice, but could the display position of the text be moved to above the tip of the cursor? Where it is now the text is underneath the cursor and some of the text can not be read. I've got a fairly large cursor and it blocks out quit a bit of the text on the shorter ones. Putting it anywhere not under the cursor would be helpful.

Thanks. We know about that one: http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171.


Gale

[cmac185]

Thanks very much for testing.

You're welcome. Trouble shooting is something I really enjoy whether it's software or mechanical/electrical things.

In 2.1.2-alpha on Yosemite, are you still getting prominent flashing of toolbars when you import files by any method, or when you save or export? Do you avoid crashes working with files? I understand the flickering may not occur on El Capitan in any case.

If you were to relax some of the precautions I think you take against crashes when you want to record, does 2.1.2-alpha crash? I know you would not want to risk important recordings but you could perhaps test by turning AppNap on again, leaving Audacity idle between recordings, letting the display sleep, or changing to another desktop while Audacity is running, then plug in your second monitor.

Note that we have not done anything to specifically address crashes or flickering. We have updated to wxWidgets 3.0.2 which we think could make Audacity more stable with the latest versions of OS X.

Haven't tried the new 2.1.2 on Yosemite yet. Will do.

Flickering indeed is non-existant on El Capitan. Will check on Yosemite.

I've relaxed all the precautions on recording on El Capitan running 2.1.1 without problems. Even moving the Record Buffer back to 100ms from 15ms. I'll see what happens on Yosemite.

Thanks again. Quitting Audacity, deleting ~/Library/Application Support/audacity/pluginregistry.cfg then restarting Audacity is usually the most convenient way to remove duplicate plugins and start over again with the default shipped and enabled effects. But it seems even after deleting pluginregistry.cfg, I can't add or remove any effects in that session without having to force quit.

So we'll try to fix that.

Glad you were able to duplicate it. It seems as so often issues I see in software others have a hard time duplicating so they're hard to fix.

Glad also that you know about the Tool Tips. Not a major issue, but would just make it nicer.

I'm curious, what the thinking is for the change in font size on the track window and the Project Rate and Snap To lists. Will those be user adjustable? For me personally I prefer the way they are in 2.1.1. 2.1.2 Track Window time line seems gaudy being so big and the Project Rate and Snap To lists are now micro size, at least on my 15" MBP.

Cliff

[Gale Andrews]

I'm curious, what the thinking is for the change in font size on the track window and the Project Rate and Snap To lists. Will those be user adjustable? For me personally I prefer the way they are in 2.1.1. 2.1.2 Track Window time line seems gaudy being so big and the Project Rate and Snap To lists are now micro size, at least on my 15" MBP.

I'm pretty sure it's unintentional and due to the move to wxWidgets 3.

So I'll be raising the text size disparities as an accessibility issue.

Gale

[cmac185]

So I'll be raising the text size disparities as an accessibility issue.

Sounds good.

Just and update on 2.1.2 testing.

- Just verified that the Add/remove plugins locks up regardless of how many plugins are already enabled. I did as you suggested and removed the plugins.cfg and it generated a new list, but some were not enabled so enabled some of them and exited the dialog and it locks up. Restarted and finished the enabling of the rest of the plugins and again it locks up.

- So far no crashes or hic-ups on Yosemite. Letting it sit so far does not cause a crash or sitting then plugging in my second monitor is ok so far also.

- So far no flashing on saving a project. I haven't had a need to do any importing yet so haven't tried that. But so far it looks like the new wxWidgets seems to have solved some issues on Yosemite. It would be interesting to know what changed in El Capitan that the issues seemed to go away even with using the older wxWidgets.

BTW, App Nap is allowed and putting the display to sleep with App Nap allowed doesn't seem to mess up the recording and it did with 2.1.0 on Yosemite.

I still need to do more testing, but wanted to give an update anyway.

Cliff

[Gale Andrews]

Just verified that the Add/remove plugins locks up regardless of how many plugins are already enabled. I did as you suggested and removed the plugins.cfg and it generated a new list, but some were not enabled so enabled some of them and exited the dialog and it locks up. Restarted and finished the enabling of the rest of the plugins and again it locks up.

I think Leland fixed the plugins problem - Leland does not have a build up but try mine:
http://gaclrecords.org.uk/test-builds/a ... -alpha.zip.

If you don't mind, try opening other dialogues too and see if the project window is still usable after you close the dialogue.

The plugins.cfg file is for older versions of Audacity - I guess you deleted pluginregistry.cfg though if it had the intended effect.

- So far no crashes or hic-ups on Yosemite. Letting it sit so far does not cause a crash or sitting then plugging in my second monitor is ok so far also.

- So far no flashing on saving a project. I haven't had a need to do any importing yet so haven't tried that. But so far it looks like the new wxWidgets seems to have solved some issues on Yosemite. It would be interesting to know what changed in El Capitan that the issues seemed to go away even with using the older wxWidgets.

BTW, App Nap is allowed and putting the display to sleep with App Nap allowed doesn't seem to mess up the recording and it did with 2.1.0 on Yosemite.

I still need to do more testing, but wanted to give an update anyway.

Thanks, Cliff. Doing a recording, opening a new window, doing a new recording in that new window then saving or exporting would be a good test. Some users have a lot of crashes with that or variations thereon.


Gale

[cmac185]

Opps, yes I deleted the plugingregistry.cfg. Did it again with your build and it comes up just fine and I can work with the dialog and make changes as normal. I'm not sure what you were referring to opening other dialog windows as a test. I don't see any other ones other than the plugin dialog that can be opened from several menu items. That all works fine. That was a quick fix.

In the process of editing a recording last night I noticed another issue.

You can reproduce it by having a recording displayed in the track display. Then click somewhere on the recording with the cursor and notice that you can move the cursor with the arrow keys. Then either zoom in or out using the zoom tools from the tool bar. Now try to move the cursor with the arrow keys. You'll find the cursor will not move anymore. Click somewhere else and now the arrow keys work. Do another zoom and you'll find the arrow keys unresponsive again. This is on both 2.1.2A versions.


A question regarding Tool Tips. I notice that all, but the recording and playback tool tips don't work on 2.1.2 Alpha. Is this planned? Also when hovering over the recording/playback slider when the Tool Tip comes up the focus in Audacity changes so the color goes away in the drop down buttons for things like "Input Source" and the like and the yellow box around the selected track display goes away. You may not have any control over that, but it seems like a whole lot more processing going on that would be necessary just to put up the Tool Tip.

Would you rather use another means to report suspected bugs than this forum thread? I was just thinking the topic is kind of changing.

Cliff