Can't import correctly 5.1 WAV and DSD (.dff) audio files

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Re: Can't import correctly 5.1 WAV and DSD (.dff) audio file

Post by rambomhtri » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:06 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:FWIW I just converted a 5.0 WAV containing DTS to 5.0 PCM WAV in Foobar2000. All I did was install the DTS component, choose WAV output and made sure no DSP to downmix to stereo was enabled. Audacity can play that file now.

But you have the Hydrogenaudio Forum link I gave you if you cannot get it to work.


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Wow, that sounds great. But I can't accomplish that. First, I download a dff decoder for foobar2000, and all I got is a .dll file that I don't know how to use. I've been looking to the foobar2000's preferences, but there's no such a thing as "Decoder" menu where I can select a file extension and point the downloaded dll file.

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Re: Can't import correctly 5.1 WAV and DSD (.dff) audio file

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:23 pm

rambomhtri wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:FWIW I just converted a 5.0 WAV containing DTS to 5.0 PCM WAV in Foobar2000. All I did was install the DTS component, choose WAV output and made sure no DSP to downmix to stereo was enabled. Audacity can play that file now.

But you have the Hydrogenaudio Forum link I gave you if you cannot get it to work.


Gale
Wow, that sounds great. But I can't accomplish that. First, I download a dff decoder for foobar2000, and all I got is a .dll file that I don't know how to use. I've been looking to the foobar2000's preferences, but there's no such a thing as "Decoder" menu where I can select a file extension and point the downloaded dll file.
I have been pointing you to solutions that I have read will work, but converting DFF to WAV in Foobar 2000 might work too. See Foobar2000:How to install a component. Audacity does not provide support for Foobar 2000. That is provided on Hydrogenaudio.

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Re: Can't import correctly 5.1 WAV and DSD (.dff) audio file

Post by rambomhtri » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:35 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:
rambomhtri wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:FWIW I just converted a 5.0 WAV containing DTS to 5.0 PCM WAV in Foobar2000. All I did was install the DTS component, choose WAV output and made sure no DSP to downmix to stereo was enabled. Audacity can play that file now.
Gale
All right, thanks, now I've managed to play dff files in foobar2000 installing the component! Thank you Gale!

As I already knew how to add a decoder/encoder to Audacity, pointing Audacity to the dll file, I was unzipping the zip/rar files of the components, obtaining the dll files and not knowing how make foobar2000 to point to them. But it was as simple as not unzipping the components, you just select the zip file and foobar2000 adds the dll file automatically.

Now I'm gonna try to convert dff and the wierd wav to something audacity can work with. Thanks for all your help. :D

YEAAAAAAAH!!!! I've done it. Thank you GALE, you're a God I definitely will pray to! :mrgreen:

PD: Once you added to foobar2000 the dff file (after installing the dff decoder componenrt), you just have to right-click the file, convert, Quick convert, then select WAV (that's what I selected) and then convert. DONE!

A 6 channel WAV right there importable into Audacity.
8-)

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Re: Can't import correctly 5.1 WAV and DSD (.dff) audio file

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:07 pm

rambomhtri wrote:Once you added to foobar2000 the dff file (after installing the dff decoder componenrt), you just have to right-click the file, convert, Quick convert, then select WAV (that's what I selected) and then convert. DONE!

A 6 channel WAV right there importable into Audacity.
Good. ;)

Because of the weird 1-bit DSD format, converting to PCM from DSD isn't completely lossless. So, conversion from DFF to DSF using the tool I mentioned should (as I understand) be lossless. But if you used that tool then imported the DSF into Audacity (pointed to FFmpeg 2.3), you would get the slight loss at that point.

As a reference point, that Foobar2000 DFF component does not seem to play DSF files.


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