Auto labelling - possible?

[Gale Andrews]

If a count reset or a label sort needs "years of discussion" then the system is broken IMHO .

"Export to mono MP3: (17 votes)" has been under discussion for nearly 4 years

Which was not helped by the original "votes" not being clear what was wanted by those voters - "set it and forget it so that mono is always encoded at 64 kbps and stereo at 128 kbps".

I don't see count reset and label sort as anything like as complex in terms of what could be wanted.

And I thought we were not far off agreeing what to do about "mono MP3 export" http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 56&t=77424 ? There is the use case above and the usefulness of choosing mono at the same bit rate for increased quality.

I agree with you that "Support for a different output sample rate than input sample rate" should be excluded from that for now (only one person ever asked for it and I think there are other dependent considerations around that). You want to rip out the "stereo/joint stereo" choice but I'm not convinced (given some people insist that "joint stereo" is "impure" or "worse quality" in some sense).

I would say go for it if you can code it - import / export features and bug fixes are woefully neglected. Leave "stereo/joint stereo" in the patch, but argue for it to be removed. Maybe consensus will say it should be removed.


Gale

[steve]

If a count reset or a label sort needs "years of discussion" then the system is broken IMHO

I agree that some options could be useful, but given that the developer's don't like "preferences bloat", and no-one likes "menu bloat", how would you propose to add options to this feature?

[Gale Andrews]

If a count reset or a label sort needs "years of discussion" then the system is broken IMHO

I agree that some options could be useful, but given that the developer's don't like "preferences bloat", and no-one likes "menu bloat", how would you propose to add options to this feature?

The Label Track dropdown menu is nowhere near as full as the Audio Track dropdown menu.

Right-click in a label track (outside the label's text box) is unused.


Gale

[steve]

The Label Track dropdown menu is nowhere near as full as the Audio Track dropdown menu.

The track menus really belong with the track. Normally, options selected in a track menu apply specifically to that track.

Right-click in a label track (outside the label's text box) is unused.

It is at the moment, but we've had a number of ideas about right click outside the label's text box. Also there could be multiple label track, which would then be a bit confusing if a right click on one label track has effect on all label tracks.

At the moment I'm leaning toward a second menu item - "Configure Numbered Labels" (or some such), that would open an interface - so "Add Numbered Label" would be a one click, no option command, and "Configure Numbered Labels" would be the GUI.

If this gets proposed for 2.1.1, I would still support customisation of the numbered labels (even if they would then be "autolabels" not numbered).

I don't like the name "autolabels". That suggests to me "automatic labelling" (like "Sound Finder" et al.)
How important is the ability to automatically add non-numeric characters? (compared with the usefulness of automatically adding numbered labels)

How about time-stamp labels?
Could be very useful for people using Audacity to record lectures while taking notes.

[Gale Andrews]

The Label Track dropdown menu is nowhere near as full as the Audio Track dropdown menu.

The track menus really belong with the track. Normally, options selected in a track menu apply specifically to that track.

Absolutely, what I mean is having an item there to sort labels.

At the moment I'm leaning toward a second menu item - "Configure Numbered Labels" (or some such), that would open an interface - so "Add Numbered Label" would be a one click, no option command, and "Configure Numbered Labels" would be the GUI.

That's fine IMO, if we allow two extra items in the Tracks Menu. Personally I would solve that by having a new Labels menu.

How about time-stamp labels?

Also very useful. But that is not exactly a "numbered" label and then we must have a menu item to configure the automatic text for the labels. Perhaps the command should be "Add Autotext Label"?


Gale