Greyed out drop menu!

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Greyed out drop menu!

Post by audionoir » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:27 am

Hi forum.
Am working on MAC (latest OSX) and Audacity 2.0.4.
I'm trying to turn a 75 year old mono sample into stereo! Harder than it sounds!

Have duplicated the clip, adjusted one of the files by 2ms and thats where I run into trouble!
The drop menu under each of the 2 tracks (on the left hand side of the screen) is partly greyed out!!!!
Mono
Left Channel
Right Channel
Make Stereo

All the above are greyed out! No idea how "un grey" them!
If there is an easier way to convert mono to stereo then I'd be delighted to know!
Appreciate your feedback thanks
A.N

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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by steve » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:28 pm

Most functions are greyed out while Audacity is playing recording or paused. Click the Stop button to ensure that Audacity is in Stop mode.
How to join stereo tracks is described here: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/sp ... racks.html

Rather than just delaying one track to create fake stereo, there is a plug-in available that creates quite a good fake stereo effect. If your "mono" track has only one audio channel, you need to duplicate it and join the two mono channels (without time shifting either of them) to create a "two channel mono" track before you can use the "Pseudo Stereo" effect.
The plug-in is available here: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyqui ... udo-Stereo
Installation instructions: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Downl ... g_Plug-ins
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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by audionoir » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:27 pm

Hi Steve, thank you for your very prompt response.
I've double checked the functions that you mentioned in your post. No luck I'm afraid!
Before I install and run the Pseudo Stereo plugin I need to convert (as you have rightfully suggested) my Mono track to a 2 channel track before using the effect.
The plugin says: To do so, click above the Mute and Solo buttons in the Track Control Panel, choose Edit > Duplicate then click on the name of the upper track and select "Make Stereo Track" from the drop-down menu.
Obviously this is easy - plain english! Still the "Make stereo" option is greyed out!
Am I missing something in my preferences?
I still can't begin to figure out whats going on here!
thanks
A.N

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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by steve » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:43 am

Could you post a screen shot of the Audacity (resize Audacity so that the screen shot is not huge).
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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by audionoir » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:49 am

Sure Steve. Hope its not too big!!
Drop menu down - greyed area visible

Thanks
A.N
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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by steve » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:13 am

They are already stereo tracks (though they look rather weird with that near constant maxed out sound in the left channel.

This is a stereo (2 channel) track:
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This is two mono (1 channel) tracks:
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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by billw58 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:20 am

You are in Pause mode. Try clicking the Stop button and see what happens.
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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by audionoir » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:52 am

Thanks Bill. Tried it. No luck!
It's a real anomaly I think!

Cheers
A.N

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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by audionoir » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:18 am

Hi Steve
I can assure they're not in stereo!
one channel is just white noise hence the level reading.
playing through my monitors - is definitely 1 channel only.

Should I send you the actual file?

Cheers
A.N

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Re: Greyed out drop menu!

Post by steve » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:46 pm

audionoir wrote:I can assure they're not in stereo!
one channel is just white noise hence the level reading.
playing through my monitors - is definitely 1 channel only.
As far as Audacity is concerned, it is a "Stereo" track. Audacity is only interested in the number of channels, not what it sounds like ;) Those tracks have 2 channels.

What you will need to do is to split each of those tracks (Track drop down menu > Split Stereo to Mono") and delete the "noise" tracks (click on the [X] in the top left corner of the track). You will then be able to join the remaining mono tracks.
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