Turning off audio position indicator

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Turning off audio position indicator

Post by andrewd » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:00 am

I am using Audacity 2.03 on a new machine running Windows8 and have struck an issue that hasn't occurred on other computers. With the Selection Toolbar turned on (highly preferable), my screen reader responds very sluggishly when playing or recording. I suspect it is the audio position indicator's constant updating causing the problem. Is there a way of disabling it without turning off the toolbar? Having access to the other components of the Selection Toolbar is very helpful. I have several work-arounds if necessary.

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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by steve » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:39 am

By default the audio waveform is updated during recording and playback. You can turn that off in preferences.
Ctrl+P to open preferences, then go to the "Tracks" section, then deselect "Update display while playing".
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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by andrewd » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:10 am

Thanks Steve. I have already unchecked updating during playback, but that doesn't stop the audio position indicator from counting. I suspect that cannot be turned off without turning off the Selection Toolbar, but hoped that there may be a way.

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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by steve » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:43 am

It probably won't make much difference, but you can set the counters in the Selection Toolbar to "seconds". This will mean that they are only counting seconds during playback rather than milliseconds or whatever units they may be set at.
Information about the Selection Toolbar is in the manual here: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/se ... olbar.html
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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by Gale Andrews » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:18 am

Have you also tried turning off Meter Toolbar? It is of no use to you so you may as well not have it consuming resources.

Have you updated the screen reader for Windows 8?


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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by andrewd » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:09 am

Thanks Steve and Gale. Yes, dropping from milliseconds to seconds does fix the problem when not doing precise editing. Another work-around I have discovered is to restart the screen reader (Window-Eyes 8.2, which is current) after loading the project. No problems then with display set to milliseconds. I have occasionally thought about writing a script to get real-time info from the metres, but keep putting it off to tomorrow. In the meantime, yes may as well turn them off, although I don't think the screen reader is very interested in the graphical display.

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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:38 am

Thanks, Andrew.

I don't think anyone has reported such an issue in JAWS or NVDA, even on Windows 8. Have you reported the issue to Window-Eyes?


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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by andrewd » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:04 pm

Thanks Gale. I discussed the issue briefly with Window-Eyes tech support by phone. Armed with more information, I will now write them a note. The issue does not (and would not) occur with NVDA due to (I'll probably get my wrist slapped) less sophisticated video support. I have set up user windows and associated hotkeys in Window-Eyes that allow me to read begin and end points of a selection without having to ctrl-f6 and tab to the fields. Apart from that and that it doesn't read the date field when setting up a Timer Recording, NVDA works as effectively.


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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:06 am

andrewd wrote:I have set up user windows and associated hotkeys in Window-Eyes that allow me to read begin and end points of a selection without having to ctrl-f6 and tab to the fields.
OK. Did you try left bracket [ or right-bracket ] to read the position of left or right selection boundary respectively?
andrewd wrote:Apart from that and that it doesn't read the date field when setting up a Timer Recording, NVDA works as effectively.
OK I did not know NVDA did not read the Start Date and End Date in Timer Record (Narrator also does not).

Does Window-Eyes attempt to re-read a digit in Start Time or End Time if it updates while it is selected?



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Re: Turning off audio position indicator

Post by andrewd » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:05 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:
Did you try left bracket [ or right-bracket ] to read the position of left or
right selection boundary respectively?
That is a revelation to me. The dialog has occasionally come up when I didn't expect it and its significance was lost on me. That is very useful.
Gale Andrews wrote:
Does Window-Eyes attempt to re-read a digit in Start Time or End Time if it updates while it is selected?
I don't think so - in any event it isn't successful :). If I have focus on the unit column of the seconds, start playing and press { the revised position isn't shown until I arrow off it and back again. NVDA behaves the same.

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