I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

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I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by Niku » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:14 pm

(1) First, I don't know which version of Audacity I'm running. I want 2.0.3, but when I click on "About Audacity" i'm told that I have version 2.0.0 (Unicode). However, no matter how many times I download version 2.0.3. I keep being told that I'm running version 2.0.0. This has happened many, many times. Sometimes, I'm told that I can't install what I have just downloaded because another copy of Audacity has been detected and bad things will happen if I try to run two copies. What am I supposed to do? Yes, I have tried to uninstall version 2.0.0, but it must be there in some tiny crevice that I don't see, because I have obviously been unable to rid myself of it.
(2) Maybe it's not important for me to be unable to install version 2.0.3. However, it is important for me to be able to use Audacity, and to use it, I need a manual, a COMPLETE manual, a paper manual. I don't need or want list of links, I want a COMPLETE manual in my hands. Is it possible to download COMPLETE manual that I can print?

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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by kozikowski » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:31 am

Did you install Audacity? That may seem a strange question, but it's possible to run Audacity without installing it. Do you have this folder:

Go (top of the desktop) > Applications > audacity folder? (lower case "a")

Really odd things can happen if you try to run Audacity from the downloaded DMG file instead of the actual program.

If you do have an audacity folder, restart the machine and drag that folder to the trash. Then try and install the new Audacity. Don't empty the trash until we determine what went wrong.

You need to restart the machine to clear any active software that could interfere with the install. I know too many Mac people that leave a thousand things running all the time.

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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by kozikowski » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:39 am

A note about open-source, free software. Programming Audacity is a lot of fun and there are a number people working on it. Writing the book sucks and there is a very tiny number of people working on it. The books always lag the program version sometimes by a lot. We're perfectly happy to get any documentation at all much less comprehensive "books." If we had to stop and write books, the documentation would be three versions late.

But it would be pretty.

I suspect you'd stand a much better chance to get a tool, effect or filter changed than a single book.

That said, the "Documentation" link at the top of this page is probably the best the instructions have been in years. If you wanted to print out those pages, you could do that.

http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/

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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by steve » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:41 am

Re. the manual: There is not yet a "complete downloadable manual". The manual has been written more as a "reference" rather than as a "good read" and is very big, so you may be better to just print out pages that you are interested in. However, there have been some books written about using Audacity that you may find useful if you want "real paper in your hands": http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Books_about_Audacity
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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by waxcylinder » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:59 am

Niku wrote:(1) First, I don't know which version of Audacity I'm running. I want 2.0.3, but when I click on "About Audacity" i'm told that I have version 2.0.0
This can happen if you already have a version of 2.0.0 running and then try launching 2.0.3 (or 2.0.x where x is not 0) then what will actually be launched will be a second copy of 2.0.0.

So just make sure thay you've closed down all copies of Audacity before launcing 2.0.3

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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:05 pm

waxcylinder wrote:
Niku wrote:(1) First, I don't know which version of Audacity I'm running. I want 2.0.3, but when I click on "About Audacity" i'm told that I have version 2.0.0
This can happen if you already have a version of 2.0.0 running and then try launching 2.0.3 (or 2.0.x where x is not 0) then what will actually be launched will be a second copy of 2.0.0.
To clarify, an extra project window is opened in the current instance of Audacity, just like doing File > New. It is not running two instances of the same Audacity executable - doing this is blocked because it could cause a crash. To verify, look in the Processes tab of Windows Task Manger and you will only see one Audacity process.

On Linux you cannot even open a second window by calling the same executable again, as per http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202 .


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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:25 pm

Niku wrote:Maybe it's not important for me to be unable to install version 2.0.3.
It is important that you use the latest version with the latest bug fixes, unless you have a strong reason to go back to a previous version, for example because a feature or functionality changed in the latest version.
Niku wrote:However, it is important for me to be able to use Audacity, and to use it, I need a manual, a COMPLETE manual, a paper manual. I don't need or want list of links, I want a COMPLETE manual in my hands. Is it possible to download COMPLETE manual that I can print?
When people ask for this, they don't appreciate that a supplied paper manual would never be free, especially when Auadacity itself is free. Hard copy printing and publication costs are too high.

The only way to accommodate what you want for free with such a large document as the Manual would be a PDF Manual, which you could then print as one process instead of a page at a time. Unfortunately, there is no official PDF Manual for Audacity 2.0.x because we do not have the resources to make an official, polished PDF Manual from our HTML source material. It needs a lot of scripting work by a developer to get it right.

If you want a *rough, unofficial* PDF for 2.0.3, you can try this:
http://gaclrecords.org.uk/man.zip

which was made using HTMLDOC 1.8.27
http://www.htmldoc.org/ .

There is a a table of contents, then after the Manual Front Page and the Quick Help index page, the rest of the pages follow in alphabetical order.

No links work where they are part of an image. Most internal text links work, although they may not go exactly to the target location.

Underlining of links looks shoddy and is only approximate to the intended underlining.

Please use at your own risk, without any comeback.

Please note that the books for sale on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Books_about_Audacity are not official reference Manuals for Audacity. They are basically a "nice read" (as Steve said) that try and "tell a story" about working through how to use Audacity. They may not cover every feature and they mainly refer to late versions of the previous Audacity 1.3 series. Therefore these books will *not* relate exactly to the current Audacity version.



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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by Niku » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:08 pm

Kozikowski,

Yes, I now have Audacity 2.0.3. It wasn't there when I made my first post, but it's there now.

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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by Niku » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:15 pm

Steve,

After discovering that Office Depot could print books from PDF files, I've had them print five manuals, the last one being a 115+ page (single side) of a Samsung camcorder manual for about $14.00. That's what I had intended to do with the Audacity manual.

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Re: I want to print an Audacity manual, a COMPLETE manual

Post by Niku » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:18 pm

waxcylinder,

As mentioned above, when I looked today, 2.0.3 had been installed. It wasn't there before, but I'm not complaining.

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