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Re: add-on?

Post by steve » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:41 pm

notmusician wrote:When recording, while listening to playback, the 'recording' track doubles the playback track even if i never hit a single note.if i do use the mic or board this compounds my situation.disabling playback leaves me with no reference to how 'offsync' i am with the previous track.
If you are recording using "Stereo Mix", then everything that the computer is playing will be recorded (including previous tracks).
To avoid this problem you need to go into your sound card settings and set the recording input specifically to the input that you are using (such as the "Mic" input).
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Re: add-on?

Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:08 pm

notmusician wrote:I did want to say,i seem to be having the same issues with beta as i did with the first Audacity.When recording, while listening to playback, the 'recording' track doubles the playback track even if i never hit a single note.if i do use the mic or board this compounds my situation.disabling playback leaves me with no reference to how 'offsync' i am with the previous track.with playback disabled i can record several tracks and nothing dumps,combines,doubles,until i manually do so,but my time is waaay off.is this where the Time Quantizing patch fits in?
There isn't any patch for quantizing - Audacity would have to properly detect beats before it could quantize, which it can't yet. As I understand it, quantizing is a micro-level adjustment rather than an adjustment that merely synchronises the start of the tracks (so if some notes are behind the beat and some after it due to performer error, they will be aligned to the beat). If that's wrong, no doubt someone will correct me.

If you enable "software playthrough" in the Audacity Transport Menu you can hear a delayed copy of what you are recording while the recording is being made. To get less delay when monitoring the recording you can instead try unmuting the mic (or whatever input you are recording from) in the Playback side of "Sound" or similar in the Windows Control Panel. This does not work on all sound devices.

There is nothing you can do about your recording being laid down behind the beat of the track being played, except correct for it afterwards by pushing the recorded track backwards. Audacity does always apply a correction, but it doesn't always bring the tracks into correct synchronisation.

You can always manually bring the tracks into sync. with Time Shift Tool (press F5 then click and drag in the track). In Audacity Beta you can do something more clever. You can measure how much behind the beat the recordings are, then enter that latency amount as a correction value in Recording Preferences. Audacity will then apply that correction automatically after the recording stops. If your latency is constant, then after Audacity applies the correction, the start of the recorded track will be in sync. with the track that was being played. There are instructions on how to do a latency test here.



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Re: add-on?

Post by notmusician » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:47 am

thanks Steve

i never considered setting the s/c to the mic ,board,tables.or whatever outside source only while recording.i assumed that if i was laying down vocals after an instrumental track,the programme would read the live input leaving all other tracks in their line.(thats what i get for assuming.ukno wat they say 'bout that!)makes perfect sense tho' thanx again!

Gale Andrews wrote: (so if some notes are behind the beat and some after it due to performer error, they will be aligned to the beat)...
There is nothing you can do about your recording being laid down behind the beat of the track being played, except correct for it afterwards by pushing the recorded track backwards after the recording stops. If your latency is constant, then after Audacity applies the correction, the start of the recorded track will be in sync. with the track that was being played. There are instructions on how to do a latency test here.


Gale,

i think you got to the root of my issues!
sounds like to me, unless i cue all of my outside media,sync and record for one grande LIVE performance,Audacity is best suited otherwise.all of my problems are 'user'error.without a tme keeper and some sort of on-board syncs,im dead in the water.(simply manipulating the track within the project wont do.whenever its time to accompany outside sources,beats /notes are early or late....thus my name.
Is there still hope for me and Audacity?(love that name)

Thanx 'guys' :roll:
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Re: add-on?

Post by notmusician » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:59 am

i havent thrown in the towel.i found some plugs and wavs to use.i also found that i could make a click track to keep time.now that things seem to be turning around,i notice that my comp speakers are acting as mics.thats fine ,but i have a mic.(apex435) This could be the reason why my tracks are doubling but,i dont understand how i can listen and record using the same piece.i may need to check my lines from the PV10 to my tower and back(i have outs to the mixer from the pc for my monitors,a shelf system til i upgrade) its late,ill line it up tomorrow.im doin ribs with my own rubb recipe for Tday.its goin to be a busy one!

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