Labels Gone Crazy

[cnwtx]

I recently made a recording of one side of a 33 LP. I had put labels at the beginning of each song.
I then zoomed all the way in on the fourth label, and Yikes!, the first label's tag (not the label, just
the little text box that names it) appeared on the left of the screen. I zoomed out a notch and it vanished,
I zoomed back in and it reappeared. the first label was at 00:00:00 and the fourth was at 00:06:59.
I also have screen shots of it if you want those.

Thanks,
Cliff

[Gale Andrews]

Thanks for the report. Please use the current 1.3.12 Beta if you are not already doing so. You can check your version at Help > About Audacity, Please state what version of WIndows you are using (for example, Windows 7 Ultimate).

Using 1.3.13 alpha on Windows 7 I imported a 20 minute file, added a label at a point about every three minutes, then clicked in the fourth label to open it for editing and zoomed in as far as possible. I did not receive any issue. If you can reproduce the problem in 1.3.12 please give us exact steps to reproduce it (the exact position of the labels on the timeline and the label text could be relevant).


Gale

[steve]

Could you look in the Audacity "Help menu > About Audacity" and find out the exact version that you have. It will be something like:
Audacity 1.3.12 beta (Unicode),
and at the bottom of the "Build Information tab:
Program build date: Apr 24 2010
Build type: Release build

Also, which version of Windows are you using?

Yes, screen shots could be useful.

[cnwtx]

I am using Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 service pack 2 build 2600.
I am also using Audacity 1.3.12 Beta (Unicode) March 29 2010 release build.

Using 1.3.13 alpha on Windows 7 I imported a 20 minute file, added a label at a point about every three minutes, then clicked in the fourth label to open it for editing and zoomed in as far as possible.

Gale

I did not open the label to edit it, I just zoomed in all the way on the area around it.

The label I was zoomed in on was "06 Mule Skinner Blues" I am not quite sure where it is located because
the marks on the ruler on both sides of it read "6:59.000000"
The label that showed up next to it was "01 Sunny Side of The Mountain" and is at 00:00:00.000.

While I was writing this I also found that it does not happen just while I am zoomed in on "06 Mule Skinner Blues",
but any where past about 5:56, a few minutes after that the next tag shows up "02 Roll In My Sweet Baby's Arms"
a few minutes later the next one "05 Home Sweet Home" and after that "06 Mule Skinner Blues".
However, the last two labels never appear.

Thanks,
Cliff

[cnwtx]

Addition to above


Where I said the number 6:59.000000 appeared twice, it actually appeared twice the second time
I reproduced the bug. The first time the label "06 Mule Skinner Blues" appeared right on 6:59.000000.

[steve]

I've resized those images and converted them to .png format so that they are small enough files to display directly on the forum.
I agree that looks very weird - I hope Gale has some ideas because I haven't

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[Gale Andrews]

Thanks, cnwtx. I can reproduce it easily on Windows. Did you place the all those labels without zooming in, and then only zoom in after that, as I did? If so, I suspect that's the key to it - most people would zoom to find the place for the next label, so wouldn't come across the problem. It'll be looked into.



Gale

[cnwtx]

Gale,

That is what I did, however, I forgot to mention that I had put the selection settings on minutes
and seconds, then set it to "snap to" the second.

I just discovered that I zoomed in all the way on one label, then clicked the circle in the center of the
label to select it, and hit the "delete" key on the keyboard. It then deleted the entire track (as if I had
selected all and deleted).

Thanks,
Cliff

[Gale Andrews]

That is what I did, however, I forgot to mention that I had put the selection settings on minutes
and seconds, then set it to "snap to" the second.

Thanks. I'll check if the particular selection format is relevant, though I don't think so.

I just discovered that I zoomed in all the way on one label, then clicked the circle in the center of the
label to select it, and hit the "delete" key on the keyboard. It then deleted the entire track (as if I had
selected all and deleted).

Clicking the white circle in the centre of the label doesn't select it - it's a way to move the label without expanding it from a point to a region label (or without changing the length of its current region). See:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.ph ... racks#edit

To select a label, click in it, or click in the Label Track and TAB into it. If you click to left of the first character in the label, you can just use DEL to first remove characters, then once more to remove the label without affecting the other labels. You can also delete a label while moving other labels to right of it by selecting a region over that label, then deleting the region.

By default, Audacity selects all of the project if you don't select any region or track, to make it easy to apply effects to an entire project. So as you had not selected anything when you clicked on the label circle, Audacity selected all and then deleted it. You can turn this behaviour off at Edit > Preferences: Tracks (the top item in "Behaviors") so that you must then select a region before apply anything to it.


Gale

[cnwtx]

Thanks Gale, I thought that clicking on that circle selected the label.
I guess it doesn't.

Cliff