Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by Kizzume » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:43 am

Here is a link to the M-Audio forum where I'm getting told that it's a problem with Audacity and that my problem can not be reproduced on their end.

http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.ph ... #post55844

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by Kizzume » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:48 am

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This is what I get.

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by kozikowski » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:47 pm

<<<I'm getting told that it's a problem with Audacity>>>

And they're probably right. Audacity doesn't support ASIO drivers. That and MP3 are licensed and paid software. The problem with ASIO is nobody made a work-around. If you can't find Windows drivers for your product, that's the way it is.

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by Kizzume » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:33 pm

M-Audio is claiming that it should record fine using MME or Direct Sound--the technical support guy from M-Audio named "Ja" claims that it isn't a problem on his machine.

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by steve » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:01 pm

He's right, it should record fine using MME or Direct Sound.
Unfortunately there's not much that Audacity can do about it because (as Koz often says) Audacity is a slave to the sound system. Audacity does not deal directly with the sound card hardware, it just deals with the digital data that goes in and out via the sound card drivers. Sound Recorder does the same and you say has the same problem which indicates that the damage is happening before it arrives as digital data. There may still be some simple setting hiding away somewhere that you've missed.

Short of doing a clean Windows install and starting again, I'm not sure what to suggest other than carefully going through all the sound card settings (and the Windows Control Panel) to see if perhaps you've missed something.

I presume that you've Googled for solutions?
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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by steve » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:12 pm

Just a thought - you've not shown any screenshots of the Windows Mixer.
On XP it is usually possible to enable the Windows Mixer for any sound card (though the options in it may be limited). I can't remember off the top of my head how to enable the Windows Mixer, but it is somewhere in the Windows Control Panel.
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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by Kizzume » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:21 pm

The Delta 66 drivers disable the windows recording mixer. I posted that information in the following thread. http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=12270

but here are screenshots

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I've googled for solutions, this has done this throughout 3 intallations of windows.

I just tried something that shouldn't have worked, but it did:

I have a program called Renoise that I use to create music. It has a sampling option in it. I switched it to "direct sound" instead of ASIO, recorded with it, and it records at full volume. I even double-checked it by exporting the sample that it created and loading it into Audacity--and sure enough, it's at full volume.

I don't know what is different about the way that Renoise handles DirectSound, or how it differs from the way that Audacity records.

This is starting to not seem like an ASIO vs. DirectSound issue, it's seeming like something else, but I don't know what that is.

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by Kizzume » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:59 pm

I'm still trying to figure out why Renoise can record in DirectSound mode with my Delta 66 at full volume while Audacity can't.

I guess that for now I'll convert my vinyl to digital by recording in Renoise, then exporting the sample and importing it into Audacity to edit the sample. :(

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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by steve » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:57 pm

It would be nice to know the reason, but that sounds like a usable workaround.
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Re: Recording maxes at half volume. Why?

Post by Kizzume » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:14 am

Well, bad news:

After installing the beta driver for my Delta 66, suggested to me by an M-Audio technician, it could be a coincidence or not, but since then, even after installing older drivers, the card is not functioning correctly--it now ALWAYS records crackle sounds in the audio. I've had to purchase a new audio interface, and I'll say this--it's NOT going to be an M-Audio product. I'm getting the PreSonus FP10 10x10 firewire interface.

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