Noise reduction.

Anything you think is missing, or needs enhancement, goes here.
Forum rules
If you require help using Audacity, please post on the forum board relevant to your operating system:
Windows
Mac OS X
GNU/Linux and Unix-like
юра00
Posts: 867
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:26 am
Operating System: Windows 10

Noise reduction.

Post by юра00 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:40 pm

Respected specialists! Proposal for a noise reduction effect. Is it possible to make the effect apply by default to the whole track (without deselection and additional selection) immediately after creating a noise model? Because in 2 steps it’s still not very convenient.

steve
Site Admin
Posts: 80688
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:43 am
Operating System: Linux *buntu

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by steve » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:59 pm

Assuming that you only have one track in the project:

1) Make the selection for the Noise Profile
2) Open the Noise Reduction effect and take the Noise Profile
3) Press "Ctrl + A" (select all)
4) Press "R" (repeat last effect - in this case, it applies Noise Reduction with the settings from step 2)
9/10 questions are answered in the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

юра00
Posts: 867
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:26 am
Operating System: Windows 10

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by юра00 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:51 pm

Thank you, but that’s not quite right. The idea is that steps 3 and 4 can be passed. For example, provide in the effect menu additionally to step 1, step 2 a new item: "get noise profile (from the selected audio) and apply to the entire track."
And so, in fact, you have to perform 4 actions.
1. Select audio
2. Open effect - step1
3. Deselect (or Select all)
4. Open again (or repeat) - step2.
And as I suggest - there will be only 2 actions.

steve
Site Admin
Posts: 80688
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:43 am
Operating System: Linux *buntu

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by steve » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:48 pm

With the current Noise Reduction effect, that's not going to happen. The developers and QA people like consistency, and the consistent way that all effects work is that they process the selected audio. There may be a new Noise Reduction effect in the future that is able to reduce noise in one step, but until someone develops an effect that can do that, I think the keyboard shortcut method described in my previous post is as efficient as it gets.
9/10 questions are answered in the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

kozikowski
Forum Staff
Posts: 68902
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:57 pm
Operating System: macOS 10.13 High Sierra

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by kozikowski » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:27 am

You could make the Profile step optional. That would make Noise Reduction a lot more like other tools.

I have a very old license of SoundSoap that does Noise Reduction credibly with no Profile step—probably the same way the cellphone does it. Either any constant sound past a certain time must be noise, or average the whole selection or timeline and use that.

And it could be optional.

[X] Auto
[_] Manual Noise Select

It runs under OS-X, so I should have a license on something here.....

Koz

юра00
Posts: 867
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:26 am
Operating System: Windows 10

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by юра00 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:12 am

Dear Steve, for the specified 4 points, a macro chain cannot be created? Please help to compose.

steve
Site Admin
Posts: 80688
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:43 am
Operating System: Linux *buntu

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by steve » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:32 am

юра00 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:12 am
for the specified 4 points, a macro chain cannot be created?
It is not possible to create a Macro that will perform all 4 steps and will work every time. This is because the action of running the Noise Reduction effect depends on whether a noise profile exists or not.
* If the Noise Reduction effect does not have a noise profile, then running the effect will create a noise profile
else
* if the Noise Reduction effect does have a noise profile, then running the effect will apply the noise reduction

You can however reduce the process to 2 steps.

Step 1.
Get the noise profile in the normal way

Step 2.
Use a Macro to "select all" and apply Noise Reduction.

The Macro for step 2 requires two Macro commands:
* Select All
* Noise Reduction
9/10 questions are answered in the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

kozikowski
Forum Staff
Posts: 68902
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:57 pm
Operating System: macOS 10.13 High Sierra

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by kozikowski » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:41 am

I believe the profile setting "sticks" after the first time as long as you don't close Audacity. So if you get the profile once, application would only be Select All and Noise Reduction action step with the reduction settings.

That's why I said Auto Profile would reduce Noise Reduction to only two steps.

And you do need two because you have to adjust Noise Reduction for each application. Noise Reduction doesn't lend itself to automation.

Koz

waxcylinder
Forum Staff
Posts: 14577
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:03 am
Operating System: Windows 10

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by waxcylinder » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:39 am

kozikowski wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:41 am
I believe the profile setting "sticks" after the first time as long as you don't close Audacity.
I think (in fact I know) you believe right Koz :geek:

Peter
________________________________________FOR INSTANT HELP: (Click on Link below)
* * * * * FAQ * * * * * Tutorials * * * * * Audacity Manual * * * * *

юра00
Posts: 867
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:26 am
Operating System: Windows 10

Re: Noise reduction.

Post by юра00 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:46 am

Thank you, apparently, and have to do so. Checked, in my opinion, everything goes fine.

Post Reply