Practical way to correct mistake in recording

[phdemartin]

Hi,
I'm managing a group of voluntary who are recording books for blinds people in Chile, and teaching them to use audacity.
I'm usig Audacity since years and don't have problems to edit tracs and so on, but for beginers, the actual way of editing track and to correct mistake, is way to complicated.
Now, if you don't correct imediatly a problem, to correct a mistake, you need to put the cursor at the begining of the problem, record in a new track the corrected sentence ( By the way, the track go at the bottum of all track), copy the corrected audio, select the mistake, and paste the new audio.

Why can it be posible to do it "in-line" ?
My proposition is to put the cursor at the begining of the mistake or selectig the mistake, the result would be:

• If you simply put the cursor at the begining of the mistake, and press "record" it will insert the new audio, pushing forward the existig one, and afterward, you could erase the problem and adjust the word spacing.

• Or, if you select the mistake, Audacity would over-record the old audio and automaticly stop recording at the end of the selection

• The third option could be to split the old audio, move manualy the end of the audio foward and record in the space (now, Audacity always record at the end of the track)

[kozikowski]

Audacity has Punch and Roll which lets you add new sound to the end of old sound.

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/pun ... ecord.html

We can do a version of what you want. Drag-select the error. Generate > Silence. Silence will only appear during the selection. Leave it selected.

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Press Record**. New sound will record only during the selection on a new track.

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Audacity will play both and add the two tracks together when you export the show.

If you Generate Silence longer than the mistake, it will push the end of the show later and you can make the correction and then cut off the extra silence.

** If Pressing the R key doesn't work right, try Shift-R.

Koz

[phdemartin]

I understand this way of doing the correction and Punch anr roll, but when you find a mistake later, punch and roll is not posible,
And the "silence/select/record in new track/copy and paste, either. In our case, we record a complete book in a single audacity project. every part of the book (intro, preface index, chapter1...2...3...etc in separate track, silencing the rercorded track befor creating the next one.
One persone record the texts and another listen to the recording to find the posible mitake and write the time stamps for the reader to re-record the part where there is a problem. And at the end, we "export multple" the poject to mp3 file for the blinds people of our region.

So the problem is tht when you create a new track to crecord the correction, it goes at the bottom of the stack (sometime 60 track !!!)
An "in-line" solution would so simple to use. Now, when you paste a piece of audio in a track, there is no problem in pushing back the existing audio, and if you select something in Audacity and paste, the selected part is replaced by the pasted one. A similar comportment would be perfectly usable and easy to understand, without danger of losing data.

[kozikowski]

So the problem is tht when you create a new track to crecord the correction, it goes at the bottom of the stack (sometime 60 track !!!)

I'm out.

An "in-line" solution would so simple to use.

It would, yes.

Koz

[steve]

You don't have to work with the entire book in one Audacity project. You could have one chapter per projects, which will keep the project a manageable size. It can be useful to master the book all in one project, but by that stage all the editing is completed.

[phdemartin]

You don't have to work with the entire book in one Audacity project. You could have one chapter per projects, which will keep the project a manageable size. It can be useful to master the book all in one project, but by that stage all the editing is completed.

The problem is that even just with 8 (with you working track extended and the other ones collapsed), you are already out of a HD normal screen, mso the problem is still here, not practical at all in a software who is multitrack.

Shure, we could do a chapter per project, but you will lose the capacity to export at once, with the practicalidad of uniques ID3 metadatas in the mp3 and the complexity to manage the edition for the person who re-listen to the book. Now we have a template for new books, open it, save project as, here youy go, all the track are ready for recording: Intro, index, about the book, about the autor, preface, chapter 1, etc... For our custumer, the blinds of our región of chile, we need to maitain consistency in the structure of the audio books.
For big books, we split them in various projects.

Any way, I think that the imposibility to insert audio by recording it "in-line" is a missing piece in Audacity, not just for books, for musique to correct a faulty cord or in podcast etc...

[steve]

Shure, we could do a chapter per project, but you will lose the capacity to export at once, with the practicalidad of uniques ID3 metadatas in the mp3 and the complexity to manage the edition for the person who re-listen to the book.

Most audiobook publishers require each chapter as a separate file. For example:
https://www.acx.com/help/acx-audio-subm ... /201456300

Each uploaded audio file must:

• contain only one chapter/section per file, with the section header read aloud

[phdemartin]

At the end of the recording, we export the books with the "export Multiple" fuction to generate the mp3, every chapter as is own file.