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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by LadyLee04 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:08 am

Cool! This is all so extremely helpful. I just spent an hour reading some of your other posts and helping out other people and learned a ton. I also read a blog post by someone else about building a foam box around your microphone to assist with being able to turn up the gain without crashing the noise floor. Do you recommend this for someone with a "thinnish" voice such as mine? Could that help pick up my voice better? I fear if I speak any louder I'll lose the authenticity of my natural speaking voice.

It is a relief to know there is nothing hissing or daunting in the background!

It has been raining cats and dogs and my recording closet is on the 2nd floor..... waiting for it to die down to re-record, bummer!

Thank you!!
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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:41 am

In My Opinion you should stick with what you have and see how well we can do with post production filtering. Like I said, you have a perfectly good presentation and I don't hear anything wrong behind you. Many people would kill to be able to say that.

A note on that forum test clip. It's a Really Big Deal that you don't make any human noises in the first one or two seconds. The instructions say hold your breath. After that, you can gasp and do whatever you want for 18 seconds. If it's more comfortable for you, put the Room Tone/hold your breath at the end.

One poster insisted on shifting in his seat and scratching himself. We could hear everything. This is the tiny sample of what the microphone and room are doing with no sound from you. You have to be there because your body affects the room sound quality.

The forum will reject anything over 2MB. That works out about 20 Seconds of mono WAV.

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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by rachalmers » Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:10 am

LadyLee04 wrote:Ah, that's interesting! Newbie mistake, all my files are mp3 so I will have to rerecord and save as wav, yay!! Well, that's good to know!!

Is there hope or do most people buy studio time?

Thanks for taking a look/listen at my clip, I'll post an appropriate file as soon as I can.



Hope you don't mind me joining in the thread. I too started out only a month or so ago to record my two books for Audible submission.
This is the equipment I use.
Mac mini 6.2 - 2012, Intel Core i7,2.3 GHz, Memory:16 GB. El-Capitan OSX 10.11.3 2TB
Audacity 2.1.1 - Focusrite SOLO Mini Preamp - Shure55SH Series II (Dynamic)

I have a few posts scattered around this forum, so I won't repeat it all here.
But without getting too technical, I discovered that if I get the NoiseFloor down to as low as I can - here it's between -70 and -60 usually, and I'm only doing this at home too, then I record with my mouth about two or three inches - it varies of course, from the mic.
Then I edit the recording - getting out long breaks, and any other "bad bits" like mouth noises, then I check it with ACX check.
Mostly I then only have to use Normalize at low levels, usually say -3db to get the RMS right. If I have to Amplify to get the RMS up to where it should be, I then use Limiter to set the peaks to -3db
So like Koz, what I'm saying is minimum processing. Really, all I ever use now is Normalise, and if I need to pull the peaks back, Limiter. Then export as a WAV file. Always save your project.

I haven't ever considered getting a professional to do the audio for me - If I could afford that, I wouldn't be doing it in the first place. Plus, I enjoy the challenge of getting it right.
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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by LadyLee04 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:01 am

Hi, rach thank you so much for your suggestions and tips- I am going to try them out tonight!! I have been trying relentlessly to upload my room tone and audio clip in the appropriate format but it won't upload to this site. I live in the middle of the country and I'm thinking my internet may be the issue. I'll be heading out of state this week so hopefully while I'm at a hotel I can get fast internet that will let me upload for more suggestions!

Thanks so much to you and Koz!
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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:15 am

Do you get an error message? A 20 second stereo (two blue waves) WAV clip will not fit on the forum. It's 10 seconds stereo or 20 seconds mono. Most voice work is mono. If you're part of a theatrical presentation with effects, environment, etc, then yes, you need to be in stereo. But not audiobooks.

The forum has restrictions on file types as well. If you're not actually in WAV (Microsoft) or MP3, it may not like that.

There's a way to force Windows to show you the filename extension. Look for something.wav. or something.mp3. Try for the wav version. That file type sound tells us more.


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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by rachalmers » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:53 am

LadyLee04 wrote:Hi, rach thank you so much for your suggestions and tips- I am going to try them out tonight!! I have been trying relentlessly to upload my room tone and audio clip in the appropriate format but it won't upload to this site. I live in the middle of the country and I'm thinking my internet may be the issue. I'll be heading out of state this week so hopefully while I'm at a hotel I can get fast internet that will let me upload for more suggestions!

Thanks so much to you and Koz!


Hi LadyLee04, glad I could help.

As for uploading, it's very limited in what you can upload. WAV files are gigantic, because they pack all the recorded info into them. But that's what's needed. However, to get a sample uploaded, you need to Highlight the track you want.
Export Audio will be greyed out unless you select the track to export.
Make sure it's
Mono
max 10 seconds

Highlight the track, and export to WAV, PCM (Windows) 16 bit PCM

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For example: this first track is 4 seconds long. It's mono wav.
The second track is 7 seconds long, mono, wav.
First is 361k in size
Second is 615k in size.

Below your post, you will see [Options ][Upload Attachments]. Select Upload Attachments.
Choose a file - This is where you click on that and it will open explorer/finder so you can select the file you want to upload. When you find it, select it.
When it's name appears in the little box, then click Add the file, and wait for it to upload. It will blink back after a few seconds and show you the attachment below your post.
I'm not sure but the limit may be two files. However 1 will do for Koz to look at.
When that's in place, just [Submit] your post.

You can see the attachments and sizes etc below here.
hope that helps ...
Robert
Attachments
ONE-4sec.wav
The word 1. 4 seconds
(352.17 KiB) Downloaded 32 times
TIA-7sec.wav
Chapter intro - 7 Seconds
(600.45 KiB) Downloaded 37 times
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Re: Recording levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by LadyLee04 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:33 pm

Ah! That rings a bell, I believe I was supposed to do that and then made a too long clip- I will re do it again lol. I'll get it right!!!
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