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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by elicha » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:32 am

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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:49 am

The structure in your image appears to be correct if "help" is in the same directory as audacity.exe but if there is no "index.html" file in help/manual, then when you click Aide > Manuel you will see the "Help on the Internet" error dialogue.

If nothing happens when you click Aide > Manuel in 1.3.13, this suggests the problem is with starting your web browser or bringing it up on top. If so, what web browser are you using?


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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by elicha » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:40 am

goood morning,
I've Help in the same directory than Audacity and in Manual I have too index.html. But If I click on help, it will go to the internet help in english. I have not the possibility to stay on my computer and to have the French traduction. So what is the opportunity to download the French Manual? Impossible to include him in the audacity program??
I've tried to put all the french files instead of english, but no result. I beleave I will put all the french files in a directory alone and make a link to it outside of audacity, after reinstalling it.
Isn't it.
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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:45 pm

elicha wrote:I've Help in the same directory than Audacity and in Manual I have too index.html. But If I click on help, it will go to the internet help in english.
I don't see that it can do if you have the preference set to "local". And certainly 1.3.13 doesn't do that - it goes to the installed copy of index.html (which is of course in English).
elicha wrote: I have not the possibility to stay on my computer and to have the French traduction. So what is the opportunity to download the French Manual? Impossible to include him in the audacity program??
I've tried to put all the french files instead of english, but no result. I beleave I will put all the french files in a directory alone and make a link to it outside of audacity, after reinstalling it.
Audacity 1.3 is still Beta, most languages have been translated even less than French has, and accordingly little thought has been given to translated help. 1.2 never officially had installed help other than in English, although unofficial French and German replacements for the built-in help were provided.

Clearly each language needs its own front page in the Manual, and then Audacity could be configured so that when it was running in French language (for example), it would open main_page_fr.html and not index.html. I added a clickable list of currently translated pages to main_page_fr.html so that page will be in the next 1.3.13 Beta installation.

For now your best plan is to delete index.html and quick_help.html from your installed help. Rename the current main_page_fr.html to index.html and rename quick_help_fr.html to quick_help.html. Then when you click Aide > Manuel (or Help > Manual when in English), and have Interface Preferences set to "Local", you will go to your local copy of http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.ph ... in_Page/fr. Click "Check current version of this page" at the bottom to see the index I added.

Similarly when you click Aide > Aide rapide you will go to your local copy of http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.ph ... ck_Help/fr.

If this is helpful, maybe you would like to post a new message translating the above to French to help those who can only read French? :)



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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by elicha » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:12 am

Hello,
I've read all your post very well. Infortunatly I've found that the version I had is 1.3.12 -beta ; I believed I had downloaded the last one on the links you gave me. I'm going to download the 13 and maybe the FR-help again . After I'll make exactly what you wrote. I hope it will be right. And after all, for the translating, why not. In some other programs, I'm a beta tester, only to say that or that is no good or fail to the programmers.
For that time, I'll begin with my one copy. And I'll take again contact for the result and the translating text.
Thank you so much

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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by elicha » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:25 am

Re,
Just something more: It's should be writed than in "edition" (in fr) "preferences" we must choose the location for the help. I've just find it. And When I put Local , after shuting and opening again Audacity, the help remain at "on internet" but the link go nowhere, nor local nor internet.

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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by elicha » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:41 am

I've not finded the 1.3.13 ; I'll download the 1.3.12

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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by Gale Andrews » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:48 am

http://www.gaclrecords.org.uk/audacity- ... -alpha.zip no longer includes the help folder. I added it just for you.

If you want 1.3.13 (it would be better, because it is our latest code), then download it from the link in the paragraph above, and add the help folder (http://manual.audacityteam.org/help.zip) using these instructions.

What I described only works if you install 1.3.12 from the .exe installer, or download 1.3.13 and install the Manual from http://manual.audacityteam.org/help.zip. I don't know what you mean by download "FR-help again" but if these are some customised files you have obtained elsewhere, we don't support that.
elicha wrote:It's should be writed than in "edition" (in fr) "preferences" we must choose the location for the help. I've just find it. And When I put Local , after shuting and opening again Audacity, the help remain at "on internet" but the link go nowhere, nor local nor internet.
For most users, they will have the Manual installed and they will leave the Preference at its default setting of "local". This will then open the installed "index.html" when you click Aide > Manuel. I believe that will work if you install 1.3.12 from the .exe or install 1.3.13 and the help.zip. If it doesn't then as I have said a few times, it may be a problem with Audacity not raising your web browser properly.


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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by elicha » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:24 am

Hello,
I've uninstalled et reinstalled Audacity with the last link you give me. With that Zip, it is not automaticly installed in windows. i've put it in Prgram Files. I've also installed the manual in a directory named Help in the directory Audacity. All that is correct and without difficulty.
After running Audacity, I've controlled that the default parameter is on local for the help. But when I go to Help, it's always written "on Internet" fro manual and quick. It should but No matter for an alpha or beta version. But clicking on both the two his not responding. If I change Local for Internet, It run correctly and I get the english Manual.
My computer iin running well. Also my browser. Have you tryed it yourself?
Before loocking after french trduction, it must be running correctly. Wher is the mistake?
For me, it's not a big problem because I can understand almost all, but I was loocking for french manuel because I know nearly nothing about sound and I was afraid to do not understand the technical terms.
I'll try again
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Re: Intégration du manuel

Post by Gale Andrews » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:22 pm

elicha wrote:...After running Audacity, I've controlled that the default parameter is on local for the help. But when I go to Help, it's always written "on Internet" fro manual and quick... But clicking on both the two his not responding. If I change Local for Internet, It run correctly and I get the english Manual.
Try to say exactly what happens when Preferences is set to local and you click Aide > Manuel. Do you see a dialogue "Help on the internet"? In that case Audacity cannot find <your Audacity installation directory>helpmanualindex.html.
elicha wrote: Have you tryed it yourself?
Numerous times, as I already said.
elicha wrote:Where is the mistake?
You will need to zip the entire folder you have Audacity installed in (using 7-zip or some similar program), then upload the zip to http://www.dropsend.com/ or a similar file transfer service. Then post the web address of the download here so I can get the zip and see what the problem is. I understand you are on Windows XP. Please also tell me what browser you are using.
elicha wrote:I was loocking for french manuel because I know nearly nothing about sound
The only translated pages are the ones in helpmanual marked _fr.html. If you want to read those without being online, just navigate to those files in Windows Explorer and double-click the one you want to read. It should then open in your web browser.


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