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martythebrit
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Apple Silicon...

Post by martythebrit » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:14 pm

Will 3.0.0 support Apple Silicon on the Mac or will it continue as an Intel x64 program?
Thanks!

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by jademan » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:31 pm

martythebrit wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:14 pm
Will 3.0.0 support Apple Silicon on the Mac or will it continue as an Intel x64 program?
Thanks!
The goal of the 3.0.0 project is the unity project - to consolidate the audacity project file structure into a single file.

For additional information on Audacity 3.0.0, see here: https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Next_Release

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by martythebrit » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:52 pm

Totally confused now, are you saying there will be one install file that will choose the correct version to install? SQLite is already running on Apple Silicon so that shouldn't be an issue. Sounds like the installer will have native versions for whichever OS it's installing on, or do I have this wrong?

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by steve » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:27 pm

I've not seen one of the new Apple lineup yet, but unless they have really messed up badly Audacity will work just the same on the new kit.

From what I've read, it's not like their change from Power PC to Intel (or when they dropped support for 32-bit apps) where half the software suddenly stopped working. This time they have made an effort to retain compatibility with existing software.

If you are considering getting a new M1 Mac and you already have an audio interface, check that your interface is supported by Apple Silicon (many are not yet fully supported).
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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by martythebrit » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:50 pm

I already have an M1 MacBook Pro, I use Audacity to mix not to record, so an audio interface isn't an issue for me. It would be nice to have an M1 native version if only for the speed increase.

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by steve » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:32 pm

martythebrit wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:50 pm
It would be nice to have an M1 native version if only for the speed increase.
There is no guarantee that a native M1 version will run any faster. Some native M1 apps will run faster by taking advantage of special features built into the M1 chip, but Audacity has very little hardware specific code.

Audacity does make use of a lot of third party libraries. According to Apple documentation, it is only possible to build a universal app (that runs natively on both Intel and Silicon) if ALL libraries that it uses are universal. I have no definitive information, but I would expect that it will be quite a while before that is the case.

Also note that the latest (Tiger Lake) i7 beats the M1 on many benchmarks. Where the M1 wins is that it gets close for much lower Watts. If you read between the lines of the Apple hype, it's "speed per watt", not raw speed, where the M1 excels (the fastest Macs are still "Intel inside").
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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by martythebrit » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:07 pm

I guess we will see what happens then...

M1 is fast, it can only get better as we go to the M2, M3, etc.

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by wissme » Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:24 pm

Sure, the Mac line is Apple Silicon oriented from now on, even if Intel should be supported for some time.
I use a Mac Mini M1 (Apple Silicon) under Big Sur, very fast, low heating, perfect for music. My Focusrite card and Audacity works nicely.
But in the 2.4.2 as in the 3.0.0. version of Audacity, I have no check mark in the menus with options, also no arrow indicating a submenu. Am I the only one ???? Is is difficult to know what options is checked when ther is no check mark...
THANKS.

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by jademan » Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:47 pm

wissme wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:24 pm
in the 2.4.2 as in the 3.0.0. version of Audacity, I have no check mark in the menus with options, also no arrow indicating a submenu. Am I the only one ???? Is is difficult to know what options is checked when ther is no check mark...
THANKS.
I assume you are referring to this post: viewtopic.php?p=419719#p419719
wissme wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:53 am
Sur la version française 2.4.2 chez moi (MacOS Big Sur sur Mac Mini 2021 Apple Silicon) il n'y a pas de marques pour savoir les options du menu "flèche verte vers le bas" sont actifs ou non. Est-ce général ?

On the French 2.4.2 version (Mac mini Apple Silicon), no check marks in the menu "green down arriw" (quick play menu). Anyone else ?

The 2.4.2 version runs smoothly on this Mac under Big Sur, with Focusrite 2i2 attached.

MERCI/THANKS.

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Re: Apple Silicon...

Post by wissme » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:08 pm

@jademan
YES.

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