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Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:20 pm
by kozikowski
We'll listen to that in a bit, but forum test clips should be in perfect quality WAV, not lower quality MP3. There's no way to know if any sound damage we find is caused by the MP3, or something you're doing wrong.
And don't convert the MP3 to WAV. Once you have MP3 quality damage, it's permanent.
Yes, ACX requires delivery in MP3, but if you read the instructions, it's nose-bleed high quality, Mono, *minimum*. It's a business, not sound quality decision.
All production before submission should be in WAV.
Koz
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:34 pm
by Trebor
Diver4242 wrote: ATTACHMENTS VigilanteAngelsRawTest.mp3 (414.09 KiB)
These are the
DeClicker settings I suggest for that ...

- Declicker setting used on ''the glare of the rising sun''.png (21.49 KiB) Viewed 845 times
BTW you have some distortion on that : e.g on
"ammunition", you're a bit too close to the mic IMO.
(If you back-off a bit there will be less click-type noises too).
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Downl ... ns#install
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:35 pm
by Diver4242
Here's the WAV version (exported, not converted). I had to shorten it up to get under 2Mb. Thanks!
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:08 pm
by Mack Caster
I think your voice sounds great! I agree with your solution to upgrade Audacity and start over. These guys did a great job reworking the mastering process. Once you use it, it could very well cut your workflow by 60 to 80%. I also noticed your RMS level was around 29dbs. Your noise floor is great! You have plenty of headroom for your 3db max. Once you upgrade and if you can keep your levels the way they are, you will simply need to adjust your normalization for your 3db max to come into ACX compliance. If you are not doing so at this time, try and keep your mic no more than 2 to 3 inches from your mouth. This will help your with your RMS levels.
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:16 pm
by Diver4242
kozikowski wrote:
Windows would be Control-B to set a label.... I think.
Koz
While playing back or recording on Windows at least, Ctrl-M can be used to set a point-in-time (rather than a range) label. Pretty useful, so thanks for the heads up on labels! When I flub a line and have a do-over, I can just hit Ctrl-M, re-read it, and keep going. Perfect!
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:07 pm
by kozikowski
Ctrl-M can be used to set a point-in-time
Totally. I got the control codes mixed up.
I had to shorten it up to get under 2Mb.
Correct. No, you're not welcome to post a novel chapter or small book.
Here's the WAV version
You're sure that's your raw reading? You missed the part where you included two seconds of freeze/hold-your-breath Room Tone at the beginning of the clip. That's not an accident. There's a lot going on in that two seconds.
There is a brief silent snippet at the top of your clip, but it's suspiciously perfect. Did you by any chance create that little snippet with Control-L/Create Silence? Nobody can record that work at home and most laboratories can't do it, either.
What's your microphone and how do you have it connected to the computer? You don't have to use a computer to record your voice. About a quarter of my sound tests don't originate in a computer and we're finding a number of AudioBooks don't either.
Koz
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:28 pm
by kozikowski
I did submit a sample to ACX but haven't heard back from them in weeks
Apparently, it's required on your eighteenth birthday to submit a test to ACX, so they have several million New Submissions to crank through. The technical standards can be handled with a computer program (the way we do it), but they also have a second pass where they test for theatrical conformance. That one is very likely a human and that's where you get killed if you can't read anything longer than a stop sign and your mouth hasn't worked right since you were 9.
This is also where some computer noises get flagged. There are a couple of noises that will pass ACX Noise, but still sound like fingernails on blackboard. Such as fingernails on blackboard. Those will fail the second theatrical test.
Then there's a test they call overprocessing. That's when they fail you if the only way you can pass ACX is beat your voice with a stick until it bleeds. Cellphone voices need not apply.
The goal, they say explicitly, is normal, pleasant, conversation voices. That's why our goal was to see
how few corrections we needed.
Koz
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:30 pm
by Diver4242
I'm using a ATR2100-USB Audio-Technica mic plugged into the Ausus laptop via USB. I have the laptop just outside the walk-in closet when I record from inside. I think I remember now (recorded this a while ago) that I copied my processed room silence into the beginning of every track/chapter, so the beginning is processed. Hence, the only true 'room noise' is what's between words or sentences. Sorry about that, I completely forgot I had done that back when I started.
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:43 pm
by kozikowski
processed room silence
I believe that.
We can't use the spaces between words because they're all taken up with human breathing.
That stupid 20 second voice test is harder than it looks.
I Expect that first two seconds to have some noise in the -60dB to -70dB range.
What kind of noise depends on a million variables, but sound goes up and down by half and double every 6dB, so -60dB is
really tiny.
Drag-select a chunk of that two seconds (avoid the extremes) and Analyze > Contrast: Measure Selection > Write down the Volume number. That should be the same noise number that ACX Check is going to give you. > Close.
Each time you use this separate test, you have to press Measure Selection again. It's not automatic.
Koz
Re: Am I Doing This Right?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:12 pm
by kozikowski
A side note to the side note:
they're all taken up with human breathing.
Do Not go in and carefully excise all the breaths. ACX expects normal humans to be reading this stuff and normal humans breathe.
Given if you have verbal ticks or other annoying noises (holding up hand), then yes, you might need hand-patching or the DeEssing and DeClicking tools. Worse, Noise Reduction seems to make these traits worse.
Koz