Audiobook - Small Sample - Welsh voice

Good day.

I’m quite new to Audacity however I’m happy to say that I’m getting along fine, I believe, with the use of YouTube and the many tutorials out there, great product.

I’d like to ask if you would be kind enough to run a sense check on the link supplied below just to allow me to gather my thoughts on the work done to date. Please provide any feedback, all news is a learning tool for the betterment of the end product - mine that is :slight_smile:.

I, like others, am working with an Author / Publisher who has decided to produce his first audio book. It’s a whopper at 50 chapters and is currently running to 20 hrs recording.

I live in the UK, Aberdeenshire, so if there are other UK folks out there I could contact please feel free to drop me a line.

I look forward to hearing from you.

My file: Please used this link: This is 26 seconds, just 2 mb.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyyaaastf35y1l7


Philp

Sorry that link to the file does not seem to be working. Please see new link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyyaaastf35y1l7/Million%20Tears%20-%20%20Sample%20V1.wav?dl=0

Philip

Remember you asked.

The background noise is suspiciously low. Nobody records with a nearly -80dB noise floor. Right at “Chapter Forty-One” the voice is hollow-tube honky like it was excessively noise-reduced or recorded in a tiny room… or both.

Make up a test clip for us, and this time don’t “help” it. No effects or filters.

http://www.kozco.com/tech/audacity/TestClip/Record_A_Clip.html

You don’t have to make a production out of gasping for air. I’m going to take that instruction out.

Koz

As of right this second, you should see the new clip instructions.
http://www.kozco.com/tech/audacity/TestClip/Record_A_Clip.html

Koz

IMO it lacks treble, i.e. slightly muffled.
In order to boost-treble without making sibilance too strong, you need to de-ess* …

before-after , EQ & De_ess.gif

If you are using Audacity on Windows a free de-esser plugin is “SpitFish” …

And if you’re not…

Koz

It might be good to wait on quality processing until we get the apparent noise reduction straightened out.

The show might not be quite so smashed and muffled after that.

Koz

Paul-L’s De-esser is a Nyquist-plugin so I think it should work in Audacity running on Non-Windows Operating Systems. [ But Paul-L’s De-esser is more complicated to operate than SpitFish ].

Thanks for all the feedback. I’ll get back to you once I speak with the author.

Thanks again.
philip.

Good afternoon

OK, I have spent time with the reader and recorded this short sample. No frills, not fixes

Please have a review and advised on the outcome

Many thanks
Philip

I need to wait a bit before listening critically. If we do the patching, we can frequently do a better job with less processing. It’s also possible that it’s OK almost as it is and you’re trying too hard.

Nose Reduction recipes get tossed around like walnut-fudge recipes and sometimes you just don’t need that.

As we go.

Koz

I applied Steve’s rumble filter just as the clip was supplied to me and I got the attached analysis. Note the last sentence.

Being professionally unable to stop messing with it. I used the very short silent segment at about 8 seconds as Noise Reduction Profile. Then I noise reduced the whole clip by 6,6,6. The Noise Reduction of the Beast. That gives an almost imperceptible suppression of the background hiss, but leaves the human sounds like breathing and putting the coffee cup down. Tea cup? I couldn’t tell.

That’s the attached clip. I would submit that just as it is.

If that’s acceptable, I can publish exact details how I did it.

I see you already know the Normalize to 3.2 trick. Nobody produces peak sound values at -3.2dB straight out of the microphone.

Koz

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Quick note. You didn’t tell us anything about the computer or Audacity. These advanced tricks work with Audacity 2.1.0.

http://web.audacityteam.org/download/

Koz

Kos

Many thanks for the feedback, the sound with the 6,6,6, reduction is great and as as you say just enough to remove the hiss.
I’m very happy with the outcome please do drop me a note on how you achieved it all. I have attempted to repair the sample based on your email, not sure if there was other stuff.

  1. samples small section at 8s
  2. Ran noise reduction with 6,6,6 on whole clip
  3. ran normalize to 3.0

Sounds great

Next thing is am I going to have to start this whole book over again, 42 chapters all around 30mins. There is a lot of lip sound that need to be taken out but i expect that the price i pay.
I have made copies at various stages so may not be sooooo bad.

RE Software: I’m on the latest 2.1.0 and I’m windows 7

Thanks again in advance.

Philip

Question: there is a lot of talk about Steve’s Rumble Filter, how can I get this I cant find that description is the search?

Thanks

Pretty sure Koz is referring to the attached equalization curve. I don’t think there is an official download location for stuff like this (although perhaps there should be.)

After you download the file, in Audacity choose Effect->Equalization, then “Save/Manage Curves”. From that window choose “Import” and import the downloaded file. It will then show up as one of the presets in the equalization menu.
LFRolloffForSpeach.XML (453 Bytes)

I’ve posted it here so that it will be easier to find in future: Submit your EQ Curves - #139 by steve

The “official” download location is this page on the wiki, though there are not many XML files there yet: Missing features - Audacity Support

Thanks folks, I’ll give it a go.

My i please ask, how did the NYQUIST report get generated showing the stats for the recording?

Thanks
Philip

If you do an Analysis > Plot Spectrum on the clip, you will see an enormous amount of energy below 100 Hz and indeed a great pile of it below hearing, 20 Hz. That can screw up the accceptance noise reading. LF_rolloff strips all that away.

ACX Analyze
That one’s a flynwill recent product. I can post that when I get to a real computer. It’s still in development (days old) although it’s getting harder to tell the results of that versus the classic method.

Koz