Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Hiya,
here are pictures of the room.
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=ff725192 ... 8Nf1t1nwlY
The floor is a big, thick, furry rug folded in two and then a piece of the hall carpet I had left laid over that.
Do I not have enough of the tiles, hence the hard sound? I thought the Mudguard would have taken care of that. I even have some foam on the stand. The only other surface I can think of is the tablet that I read from.
Cheers.
here are pictures of the room.
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=ff725192 ... 8Nf1t1nwlY
The floor is a big, thick, furry rug folded in two and then a piece of the hall carpet I had left laid over that.
Do I not have enough of the tiles, hence the hard sound? I thought the Mudguard would have taken care of that. I even have some foam on the stand. The only other surface I can think of is the tablet that I read from.
Cheers.
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
OIC.
The foam panels are supposed to be flush edge-to-edge. We are probably listening to the spaces between the panels.
There's a good studio pix in the latest Entertainment weekly.
You can help the show along with that mid-low equalization hump (do try that crunching newspaper trick) The need for the filter will largely vanish when you get more panels.
But don't change anything in the middle of a show.....
Koz
The foam panels are supposed to be flush edge-to-edge. We are probably listening to the spaces between the panels.
There's a good studio pix in the latest Entertainment weekly.
You can help the show along with that mid-low equalization hump (do try that crunching newspaper trick) The need for the filter will largely vanish when you get more panels.
But don't change anything in the middle of a show.....
Koz
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Wait. I do have one. I think that's packing foam and not as effective, but still.
http://kozco.com/tech/audacity/pix/AmmanStudio.png
Koz
http://kozco.com/tech/audacity/pix/AmmanStudio.png
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Hmm, that's odd, this is how Auralex told me to put them. And obviously I didn't have enough to do flush edge to edge anyway. 
I shall have to look into getting more and doing that later on then.
I shall have to look into getting more and doing that later on then.
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Did you preload the question with how much money you had and how much wall you had to cover? It's true a completely dead room can sound a little strange, but in my opinion that's a little too much bare wall. Mid-Low (500Hz - 600Hz) problems are four and five foot problems, not computer screen or music stand size problems.this is how Auralex told me to put them.
You could put those lined Mackintoshes and Peacoats back in.
Koz
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Remembering , too, that we had to work to find problems. You can correct this if you feel like it.
Koz
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Oh I do feel like it. 
And I shall.
Cheers.
And I shall.
Cheers.
Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Greetings,
after needing to catch up on other things as of tonight and the coming days I shall be recording again.
Does anybody have any further advice on the minor changes ACX wanted me to make please? In particular, where I ought to add the compressor step to my current list? I'm hoping I won't need the EQ as I'm going to try harder not to have peaks as mentioned by ACX and here in this forum (also I'm not certain how to work the EQ range ACX and members here are talking about). Plus, any suggestions on where I ought to position the microphone and mudguard to lessen the hard surfaces I can't cover up yet please?
This is what ACX said: "I also recommend using a bit of EQ to take out a bit of a resonance. I found that taking a bit out around 600 Hz helped smooth out some of this issue. I also used a compressor with its threshold around -8dB, and ratio set at 4.5 to 1 to reduce the dynamic range a bit. This especially helped with the louder peaks of exclamation “Let’s Go!”
Here are my current steps:
Record in mono. Sample rate 44100 Hz.
Normalize to 0.
Equalization: "LF rolloff for speech"
Click remover with defaults
Noise reduction:
12
0.00
200
0.15
Look for any parts that are noticeably louder or quieter than the rest, and manually adjust using the Amplify effect or Envelope Tool.
Normalize to 0.
Limiter(2)
-3
10
Amplify to -3 dB
Export as WAV.
Export as MP3. 192 kbps CBR.
Thank you as always.
after needing to catch up on other things as of tonight and the coming days I shall be recording again.
Does anybody have any further advice on the minor changes ACX wanted me to make please? In particular, where I ought to add the compressor step to my current list? I'm hoping I won't need the EQ as I'm going to try harder not to have peaks as mentioned by ACX and here in this forum (also I'm not certain how to work the EQ range ACX and members here are talking about). Plus, any suggestions on where I ought to position the microphone and mudguard to lessen the hard surfaces I can't cover up yet please?
This is what ACX said: "I also recommend using a bit of EQ to take out a bit of a resonance. I found that taking a bit out around 600 Hz helped smooth out some of this issue. I also used a compressor with its threshold around -8dB, and ratio set at 4.5 to 1 to reduce the dynamic range a bit. This especially helped with the louder peaks of exclamation “Let’s Go!”
Here are my current steps:
Record in mono. Sample rate 44100 Hz.
Normalize to 0.
Equalization: "LF rolloff for speech"
Click remover with defaults
Noise reduction:
12
0.00
200
0.15
Look for any parts that are noticeably louder or quieter than the rest, and manually adjust using the Amplify effect or Envelope Tool.
Normalize to 0.
Limiter(2)
-3
10
Amplify to -3 dB
Export as WAV.
Export as MP3. 192 kbps CBR.
Thank you as always.
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Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Does it sound OK to you? You're up to the point where opinions are going to amount to noise. Not the noise or hiss in the show, I mean out of four people, two will think it's too boomy and the other two may think it's not boomy enough. There is no longer one thing everybody can point to as an obvious shortcoming.
You are juggling the makers of the rosin for the bow on your violin.
Did you try the newspaper trick?
Koz
You are juggling the makers of the rosin for the bow on your violin.
Did you try the newspaper trick?
Koz
Re: Fledgling voice artist seeking counsel.
Egads,
I'd not wish to juggle such esteemed violin makers.
I don't trust my ear on this. I didn't hear the problems perceived by you and others.
I shall try the newspaper trick, yes. I thought we had covered it with the spectrum test I was asked to do but I'll do that tomorrow.
Cheers.
I'd not wish to juggle such esteemed violin makers.
I don't trust my ear on this. I didn't hear the problems perceived by you and others.
I shall try the newspaper trick, yes. I thought we had covered it with the spectrum test I was asked to do but I'll do that tomorrow.
Cheers.