Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by kozikowski » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:20 pm

Excellent. I need to drop for a while.

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Post by kozikowski » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:25 pm

Wherever the settings are, that seem, to work. The supplied WAV file is just about the right size and it satisfies ACX Technical testing after I put it through Audiobook Mastering.

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But. Um..

Is that ....... the way you're........ going to read ......... everything?

Read it again and this time go out to 20 seconds. Try to read naturally. Pretend it's a commercial. There's nothing magic about ending up on the right word at the right time, but whatever you do, shouldn't go over 20 seconds.

If you read too long, cut off anything over 20 seconds before you export the WAV file.

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by rachalmers » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:37 pm

That sounds like way too much gain on the Focusrite. Are you monitoring on the Focusrite as well? Your headphones plugged into the monitor port?
On mine I turned it up until I hear the hiss/buzz then wind it back till it’s silent. That’s a good level fir that.
On Audacity switch on the monitor mic display and adjust the colour level to just peaking on yellow or a fraction below it. On mine about -6 I think from memory. I’ll check tomorrow.

Your mic is Omni- directional so it’s Very sensitive. You might put a half-pipe sound screen around it. That’s a sound screen that looks like a pipe cut in half? Usually mounts on the boom or stand. It helps but it’s not perfect. Also, as most sound enters from behind you see what you can do to dampen that sound.
Failing that find a mic that is directional. A shotgun Mike or even a genuine Shure 55SHi although the Shure doesn’t use Phantom power. You’ll toast it if you do. But they do plug into the Focusrite, just don’t turn on the phantom power for those sorts of mic.
It’s not how close you sit to the mic, it’s what sound is getting to the mic. I’m probably about two or three feet from my mic. Comfortable.
So get that part right and everything else will fall into place.
You are in a silent room. Mic gain = introduced noise.

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by gracielynn » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:57 pm

@koz
:lol: No, that is not how I am going to read everything :lol: , unless it is required of course...... I am absolutely frustrated at this point....lol.... I will redo and put some ummph to it.

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by kozikowski » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:28 am

Remember the shining goal on the hill. Make it sound like natural conversation or at worse, presenting a commercial if that's the job. We note that the technical measurements are only the first battle. They measure that to get you in the door. The second half is a human listening to it for theatrical desirability. They're selling a performance not a loudness value.

You're using an Audio-Technica AT2035 Cardioid Condenser Microphone right? You should be speaking into the side grill just up from the company name.

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You don't aim it like a garden hose. Just checking.
It's a directional microphone and either won't work, or will act funny if you try it any other way.

There's a story about that. The Yeti is a really popular computer microphone and the company wasn't any too good about telling people how to use it. It works like yours—talk at the side, but I've seen it with people talking into the end. The latest Yeti instructions are a lot more clear.

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One note about that "AIR" switch? That's a special effect. That's not a natural volume or other microphone adjustment. You should probably leave it off until we get everything working.

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by kozikowski » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:40 am

You up for an experiment? The Solo knob turns green when you're loud enough and turns red when you get too loud, right? Can you use that instead of looking at the Audacity screen? I can't tell from the instructions where the colors change, but that might be handy.

Do a sound test (using your own words) that has a bright green knob with an occasional red. Ideally, it turns red before you screw up, not as you're screwing up.

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Post by kozikowski » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:02 am

Audio-Technica loses points. I dredged through the instructions and they almost told me where the front of the microphone was. This is pretty important because it only receives sound well from the front...wherever that is. I thought I would catch them up because this microphone has a low pitch suppressor switch and volume turner-downer switch. The instructions assure me those two are on the microphone...somewhere.

I may send them a note. It's nearly 100% certain you talk into the company name and the switches are on the back.

Anyway, the PAD switch should be 0dB, not -10dB. -10dB is for when you play your trumpet directly into the microphone. Super Loud.

The other switch, straight-line and bent-line should probably be left on straight line. It's job is to quiet down wind, thunder, earthquakes, trucks driving by...and P-Popping. The problem is Audiobook Mastering already has one of these built-in and you shouldn't apply two. This one's hard.

You said you had a tennis racket blast filter in front of the microphone, right? That should be enough. Leave it straight.

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by gracielynn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:18 am

I about spit my coffee out when I read your reply. No I am not speaking into it like a garden hose. :lol:
Yes I am speaking at the level just above the insignia in the front. (so at the mic) However I have my head slightly turned to the right as to avoid the harsh plosives.

The switches are on the back of the mic on the bottom, one on the left and one on the right. The PAD switch is on 0dB. The other, I believe, is "bent".

I am willing to try the experiment, however, I do not ever get to any red or yellow when I am recording unless I am EXTREMELY loud and my mouth is almost on the mic. I was playing with this when I set up the focusrite.

With the pic you provided, I am a little closer (say the hang-10 sign, so about 6 inches from the mic?) with the pop filter in there and I am facing slightly to the right where my computer screen would be, and that is my set up.

Ok, I am going to go try this recording with the AIR button off, the Straight line on the mic.
No promises on the acting piece :roll: :lol: (I am tired and my voice is cracking, oh I can hear the jokes now.....)

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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by gracielynn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:05 am

Here is the second test. Ok, so I am not an actress, or maybe I am not buying into this script :lol: , I just can't get into this one, I made no promises. lol.... I hope I am at least getting the technical part down ;)
I did not see my previous post, so I am not sure if this will come through before the other post is approved.
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Re: Starting Narrating Adventure and need HELP!!! Pleassssse

Post by kozikowski » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:27 am

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That's after applying the Audiobook Mastering Suite of tools. In short, like this.

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So you could submit that. Noise passes as quieter than -65dB. Yours is -68dB and the ACX limit is -60dB. Quieter is bigger numbers.
I hope I am at least getting the technical part down
You seem to be. But, [ahem] I couldn't help noticing you got the name of the client wrong. It's "Catskill Farms," not "Catskill's Farms."

It might be time to revisit the goal. Are you planning on reading your own book? Can I buy your book on Amazon in either paper or eBook form? That's one of the New and Improved requirements for publishing an audiobook on ACX. I thought maybe they didn't require that any more, but they just moved the requirement from the last time I saw it.

https://help.acx.com/s/article/the-acx- ... -checklist

We had a forum poster try to sell his paper book on amazon at the same time he was publishing his audiobook on ACX. It wasn't fun.

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