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Audacity as language tool

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:42 pm
by dibdin
A. Students are to listen to a 20min foreign language podcast (mp3) in track 1
B. Pick a word or short phrase, mark it as a loop with a delay and listen to it.
C. Open track 2 and record the phrase, shift it till it aligns with track 1, visually compare. Repeat as necessary.
D. Go to next phrase.
None of this needs to be saved

This is it in essence, question is it possible in Audacity (which I downloaded specifically to check whether this could be done)
thanks

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:29 am
by Trebor
spectrogram view, (rather than waveform view), may be more useful for comparison purposes.

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Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:14 pm
by dibdin
Thanks for reply,

Leave aside for the moment which is preferable for comparison, spectral or waveform.

My question comes down to -- can I add another track for microphone input independant of the the first track
( as indicated in the mockup pic of original post).

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:13 pm
by waxcylinder
You can have both waveform and spectral view at the same time with "Multi-view" chosen from the track's Track Dropdown menu
multi_view_mono_default_50_50.png
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See this page in the Manual: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/multi_view.html

WC

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:15 pm
by waxcylinder
dibdin wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:14 pm
My question comes down to -- can I add another track for microphone input independant of the the first track
( as indicated in the mockup pic of original post).
Yes, to record on a new track just use Shift + Record or Shift + R

WC

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:05 pm
by Trebor
dibdin wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:14 pm
My question comes down to --
can I add another track for microphone input independant of the the first track
Yes, you can have Audacity record on a new track, (rather than appending),
starting from where the cursor is.
record on a new track.png
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https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/rec ... ences.html

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:39 pm
by dibdin
Thanks all, I think I have got as far as I can with Audacity as it stands. It's capable of doing all I wished for in the top post BUT at a time cost to set each word up and more importantly the distraction of the process.

My perfect solution would be to highlight a word from the mp3 file (typically 1 sec) and click the selection which opens in a popup like this. The selected piece in in green. The user now listens and repeats then presses record to capture the lower track.

(this image is from Mango, a language learning app)

Is this technically possible using a plug-in ?

(apologies if I'm the wrong forum for this)

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:55 pm
by steve
dibdin wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:39 pm
My perfect solution would be to highlight a word from the mp3 file (typically 1 sec) and click the selection which opens in a popup like this. The selected piece in in green. The user now listens and repeats then presses record to capture the lower track.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but can't you just:
1. Select the word / phrase
2. Press "Space" (play)
3. Repeat step 2 as often as required
4. Press "Shift + R" (record to new track)

Re: Audacity as language tool

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:47 pm
by dibdin
but can't you just:
yes, and that will do for now, I started looking at what making an add-on involved and balked at the work!

thanks