Rapid Comparison Switching

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Gale Andrews
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Re: Rapid Comparison Switching

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon May 25, 2015 11:40 am

Robert J. H. wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:And that trick was exactly what enabled James to win the day with Standard Mode being default. ;)
Robert J. H. wrote:The simple mode unmutes the track first--unnecessarily, I think.
I disagree, because "Solo on" muting all the other tracks and "Solo off" unmuting all tracks is intuitive. Your trick is not at all intuitive. :)


Gale
It is exactly the way our 48-track mixer worked, back in 2000.

The other choosable mode was that pressing a solo button released all other solo buttons, pressing the button twice released this one too.
But it never mangled with the mute buttons, they kept there state, only overwritten by the solo button's priority.
That's why I see it unnecessary to affect the mute as well.
Yes but there is the whole argument. Many users won't have experience of mixers and the most naive will therefore find Standard Mode unintuitive.


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Re: Rapid Comparison Switching

Post by steve » Mon May 25, 2015 2:07 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:Sorry but I think this is still too complex for average user. I somewhat like the idea of pressing one button only to toggle between hearing one track on its own then another on its own, but we can do that now in Standard Mode.
The scheme I proposed was not quite right. The tricky thing is to device a simple method for A/B switching that (a) also does something sensible if there are more than 2 tracks, and (b) can be escaped back to normal mode (all tracks playing). Ideally it should avoid the need to use the "alternative" shift+click operations.

How about this:

  • Click the A/B solo button on track A to listen to track A.
  • Click the "A/B solo" button on track B to listen to track B.
  • Click the "A/B" solo button on track B to toggle between A and B.



In detail:
Depressing the "A/B solo" button, mutes all other tracks.
Releasing an "A/B solo" button (was down now up) unmutes any other tracks that have the "A/B solo" button down.

1) Click the "A/B solo" button on track A.
  • Mutes all other tracks.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is now down and the mute button is up. Plays
2) Click the "A/B solo" button on track B.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is now down and the mute button is down. Is muted
  • The "A/B solo" button on track B is now down and the mute button is up. Plays
3) Click the "A/B solo" button on track B again.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is down and the mute button is now up. Plays.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track B is now up and the mute button is down. Is muted.
3b) Click the "A/B solo" button on track B again.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is down and the mute button is now down. Is muted.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track B is now down and the mute button is up. Plays
Repeat steps 3 / 3b as required.

To escape from A/B comparison, set all "A/B solo" buttons up.


The complex case of A/B/C:
This is not so useful, but may occasionally be useful for comparing a mixed down track to a number of other tracks.

1) Click the "A/B solo" button on track A.
  • Mutes all other tracks.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is now down and the mute button is up. Plays
2) Click the "A/B solo" button on track B.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is now down and the mute button is down. Is muted
  • The "A/B solo" button on track B is now down and the mute button is up. Plays
3) Click the "A/B solo" button on track C.
  • The mute button on "A/B" tracks toggle.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is down and the mute button is down. Is muted
  • The "A/B solo" button on track B is down and the mute button is down. Is muted
  • The "A/B solo" button on track C is down and the mute button is up. Plays
3b) Click the "A/B solo" button on track C again.
  • The mute button on "A/B" tracks toggle.
  • The "A/B solo" button on track A is down and the mute button is up. Plays
  • The "A/B solo" button on track B is down and the mute button is up. Plays
  • The "A/B solo" button on track C is up and the mute button is down. Is muted
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Re: Rapid Comparison Switching

Post by waxcylinder » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:27 pm

So is the hidden underlying FR here "to make Simple the default setting for Solo"?

If so can we just go ahead and do it ?

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Re: Rapid Comparison Switching

Post by steve » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:55 pm

waxcylinder wrote:So is the hidden underlying FR here "to make Simple the default setting for Mute"?
Do you mean "solo"?

Peter: good catch - yes I did - so I changed the above post
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