Shorter minimum attack and release times for Compressor

[steve]

One thing that would be useful to me would be an adjustable make-up gain control.

The current "make-up gain" is actually a "normalize" function. It amplifies the output to a peak level of 0 dB.

[Gale Andrews]

One thing that would be useful to me would be an adjustable make-up gain control.

The current "make-up gain" is actually a "normalize" function. It amplifies the output to a peak level of 0 dB.

This is getting off the subject, perhaps you should split to a new topic.

I think it is better to describe "Make-up gain" as an "Amplify" function (in Audacity terminology). It only makes the loudest track peak at 0 dB, any other tracks are scaled up by the same dB increase that the loudest track had.

Gale

[steve]

This is getting off the subject

If we want to restrict the topic to the one feature stated in the topic, then I think we all agree.
I'll be quite happy to make the change this evening if there are no objections.

Within the current effect:
I'm +1 for Attack Time to go down to 0.01 seconds, but -1 for going less than that.
I'm +1 for Release Time to go down to 0.1 seconds, but -1 for going less than that.

[billw58]

This is getting off the subject

If we want to restrict the topic to the one feature stated in the topic, then I think we all agree.
I'll be quite happy to make the change this evening if there are no objections.

Go for it.
-- Bill

[waxcylinder]

Do-ocray ...

[Trebor]

Within the current effect:
I'm +1 for Attack Time to go down to 0.01 seconds, but -1 for going less than that.

That's a minimum attack of of 10 ms. Other compressors allow a minimum attack below 1 ms ...

Attack and release settings on GMulti

Gmulti -muiltiband compressor.gif (76.36 KiB) Viewed 1661 times

Attack and release in milliseconds

FloorFish (expander) , attack and release ranges.gif (49.09 KiB) Viewed 1660 times

The default attack setting could still be something middling , but give people the option of sub 1ms if it is possible.

[steve]

Other compressors allow a minimum attack below 1 ms ...

Perhaps they do, but do they go up to 5 seconds attack and 30 seconds release?

At the minimum settings, those GMulti compressor setting will not behave like a "dynamic compressor" in the Audacity Compressor - it's too fast for low frequencies. it'll be "wave-shaping" rather than "compressing the dynamics". (Not that there is anything wrong with that as "an effect".)

[Trebor]

Other compressors allow a minimum attack below 1 ms ...

Perhaps they do, but do they go up to 5 seconds attack and 30 seconds release?

At the minimum settings, those GMulti compressor setting will not behave like a "dynamic compressor" in the Audacity Compressor - it's too fast for low frequencies. it'll be "wave-shaping" rather than "compressing the dynamics". (Not that there is anything wrong with that as "an effect".)

I've not noticed any wave-shaping distortion using the Gmulti compressor with sub 1ms attack ,
maybe Gmulti is applying sustained-compression between the attack-threshold being reached and release, ( and not telling me about it ).

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[steve]

maybe Gmulti is applying sustained-compression between the attack-threshold being reached and release, ( and not telling me about it ).

Yes, perhaps, but Gale was trying to get us to stay on topic so that we could get an actual result
It may not be quite as much as you want, and I'd certainly want other improvements eventually, but do you support a tenfold reduction to the minimum attack/release times? (that's what's on the table now).

[Gale Andrews]

Within the current effect:
I'm +1 for Attack Time to go down to 0.01 seconds, but -1 for going less than that.
I'm +1 for Release Time to go down to 0.1 seconds, but -1 for going less than that.

Seems reasonable. I've wondered myself why the minimum was set so high.

Will that make the slider harder to use at the current range? One change we perhaps could make quite easily to Compressor would be to add text input boxes.


Gale