No more poncing about with Audacity.

[Poncing about]

(another?) problem with the latest Audacity...

Multi-tool mode: you can only move a ‘track in time’ once - only once!
I’m pissed off with this - I’ve gone back to 1.2.3

[steve]

Multi-tool mode: you can only move a ‘track in time’ once - only once!

Works fine here.
How exactly are you trying to "move a track in time"?

I’ve gone back to 1.2.3

Your choice, but Audacity 1.2.3 is no longer supported.

[Gale Andrews]

Multi-tool mode: you can only move a ‘track in time’ once - only once!

I agree that's a bug when hovering over the grab bar to move the entire track, then going back to do the same thing later. Also it does seem to work correctly in 1.2.6.

You can work around this by using the grab bar at the other end of the track than the end you used for the last time shift.



Gale

[steve]

I agree that's a bug

It works as described in the manual http://manual.audacityteam.org/manual/h ... _tool.html
It's been this way for at least 7 years, and in my opinion it is a significant improvement over the old 1.2.x version that would not allow dragging a clip to a different track (though I'm not saying that it cannot be improved still further).

[Gale Andrews]

I agree that's a bug

It works as described in the manual http://manual.audacityteam.org/manual/h ... _tool.html
It's been this way for at least 7 years, and in my opinion it is a significant improvement over the old 1.2.x version that would not allow dragging a clip to a different track (though I'm not saying that it cannot be improved still further).

I agree you can always use CTRL to shift an entire track, which is the one saving grace, otherwise I still regard the new behaviour as an unintuitive regression bug. I assumed the original poster was dragging an entire track, in which case dragging from the other drag bar seems the easiest solution to remember.

I don't see why we needed to stop the 1.2-style drag from the drag bar working unless audio is touching the drag bar. Dragging a track or clip that touches the drag bar into a new track doesn't depend on using SHIFT or CTRL in any way.

Most tracks will start at time zero, so drag from that drag bar will work the first time. It just looks broken to hover over the drag bar having moved the track from zero, see the cursor change to Time Shift in the same way, and then nothing happens. What I think should have been done is that drag from the drag bar moves the track (or the train of clips) as happens now if you hold SHIFT. If I am not mistaken, James has admitted this is a bug, it's just never been logged anywhere.


Gale

[steve]

The multi-tool was redesigned between 1.2.x and 1.3.x so as to provide considerably better clip handling. Comparing the functionality of the 1.3.x version with the 1.2.x version, the later version has considerably enhanced functionality.

I don't see why we needed to stop the 1.2-style drag from the drag bar

I agree. That would be a nice enhancement to the current multi-tool.

I'll move this topic to the "Adding Features" section.
I think that we could raise this with QA and see if we could get this behaviour added in the 2.0.3 version.

[Gale Andrews]

It's a regression bug, not a feature request.


Gale