Generate starts its own track.

Post by **kozikowski** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:49 pm

It's been a little scattered and I've been on vacation, sorry, holiday.

I suppose, and I understand nothing about this ls life threatening, pop a dialog box:
Start a new track [ ]?

Or make it part of the existing dialog for, for example, what kind of noise do you want, etc. etc.

As above in the discussion, I'll bet wiping out an existing track by accident is almost never desired, even though it follows the focus rules. You can remove a large, multi-track, valuable show like that if you're not careful.

Actually, that brings up another oddball problem. If you select a portion of an existing musical performance and Generate > Noise, does it stop giving you the length dialog? Or it then becomes optional?

Koz

Post by **steve** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:10 pm

kozikowski wrote: If you select a portion of an existing musical performance and Generate > Noise

The duration in the dialogue defaults to the current selection length (very useful) though you can override the default by entering a different length if that's what you want.

Post by **waxcylinder** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:08 pm

I was poised to transfer this to the Wiki>PFR toaday and suddenly realized I could not summarize what the actual FR is

Peter

Post by **steve** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:50 pm

waxcylinder wrote:and suddenly realized I could not summarize what the actual FR is

From Koz's last post on the subject:

kozikowski wrote:pop a dialog box:
Start a new track [ ]?

Or make it part of the existing dialog for, for example, what kind of noise do you want, etc. etc.

I suspect that (yet another) pop-up warning would be highly unpopular.

Adding an option within the generator interface would be useful IF it could be universally applied to all generator effects. It would probably not be possible to implement for third party plug-ins which imho would make this option more "dangerous" than the current situation.

Unless Koz has an alternative suggestion of how to implement, I'm -1 for this proposal.

Post by **waxcylinder** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:52 am

BUMP: any frther suggestions? Is this worth transferring to Wiki>PFR?

Peter.

Post by **waxcylinder** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:04 pm

*BUMP*

???

Post by **steve** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:33 pm

I think that it would be a good feature if generate effects could have an option for creating new tracks, so that, for example, if a track is selected then there could be an option in the generate effect interface for "Use Current Track(s) / New Mono Track / New Stereo Track". Of course if no track were selected then the "Use Current Track(s)" option would need to be greyed out.

I think that the most useful aspect of such a feature would be that it would allow stereo generators without the need to manually create a new stereo track first. I think that it would also provide the functionality that Koz was originally asking for, but the main problem would be that third party generate effects would probably not support this feature, so there would be more room for user error and confusion than at present.

Post by **kozikowski** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:15 am

In my all too fertile imagination, I would import or record a track, set one simple condition and Generate Noise, Generate Tone and Generate Touch-Tones and I would get four separate tracks, one above the other.

I think the problem is you can't deselect a music track if it's the only thing there. Maybe that's the secret.

And yes, generating stereo noise (for example) is way too hard.

Koz

Post by **steve** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:24 am

kozikowski wrote:In my all too fertile imagination, I would import or record a track, set one simple condition and Generate Noise, Generate Tone and Generate Touch-Tones and I would get four separate tracks, one above the other.

Record a track
Enter
Generate Noise
Enter
Generate Tone
Enter
Generate Touch-Tones

Does that work for you?

Post by **kozikowski** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:57 am

The Enter key as opposed to the OK button on the generate control panel?
How does that get around the tools natural inclination to follow the cursor in the active timeline -- that is, I really did want to insert 1/2 of silence wherever the cursor is.

I don't have the answers and I barely have the questions. I just dread having to start a fresh noise timeline inside an existing project because it has so many odd spells associated with it, particularly if you want stereo noise. "OK, you start, I'll go get Asian take-away."

It would be logical if I could deselect the music (the existing timelines) and give the generate tool free rein to start a new one. Then do it twice and marry them using existing tools into a stereo track.

No, I get that won't work either because you have to de-select the first noise track to get the second one. [email protected]#$%

Extra clicky inside the Generate tool .. [X] start new track?

Koz

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