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Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:01 am
by Robert J. H.
kozikowski wrote:On a bright, cheery note. I've used the new Noise Reduction several times now with gentle settings and it appears to work as on the tin with few if any evil artifacts. I haven't needed to rescue projects on death's door, either, but what I've done sounds good.
Koz
What do you mean with gentle settings?
Perhaps the devil's number? 6-6-6
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:53 am
by kozikowski
Actually 12.6.6. We needed a little more aggression than the devil could do. Is it still the case that if you start getting closer to 20, you should probably start addressing other shortcomings in your recording environment? 12 used to leave just barely audible stuff floating in the sound (snake voices). I haven't found any.
Koz
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:19 pm
by Paul L
kozikowski wrote:On a bright, cheery note...
Koz
I hope that cheery note is not a tinklebell.
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:56 pm
by kozikowski
It is not. The result is remarkably clean. I understand it's just waiting for me to let my guard down.
That's not to say the tool is "perfect in every way" (Mary Poppins). Why is the Smoothing slider at one end in order to select the "middle" of the range? Where are the markers for the default settings? What happens if you select "0," the obvious center of the Sensitivity range?
Etc.
Koz
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:20 pm
by Gale Andrews
kozikowski wrote:What happens if you select "0," the obvious center of the Sensitivity range?
"0.00" Sensitivity is the bypass switch - it turns the effect off.
Gale
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:04 am
by Robert J. H.
kozikowski wrote:Actually 12.6.6. We needed a little more aggression than the devil could do. Is it still the case that if you start getting closer to 20, you should probably start addressing other shortcomings in your recording environment? 12 used to leave just barely audible stuff floating in the sound (snake voices). I haven't found any.
Koz
As Paul has already pointed out, The reduction setting can now be much higher.
I've got no problems with e.g. -60 dB.
Once you've found a setting for -6 dB, you'll probably also have the right one for -48 dB.
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:57 am
by MichloIW
Greetings,
my second book has been completed and accepted by ACX.
I am now ready to assist with any testing.
You will also be glad to know that I've finally been able to upgrade my microphone. I now have the AT 2020. I only set it up today but I've already noticed the absolutely fantastic fact that it does not pick up soft sounds from behind my Auralex Mudguard (i.e. the quiet fans I have which I could never use with the Blue Snowball).
Let me know when and what you would like me to do.
Cheers.
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:49 pm
by Paul L
MichloIW wrote:Greetings,
my second book has been completed and accepted by ACX.
I am now ready to assist with any testing.
You will also be glad to know that I've finally been able to upgrade my microphone. I now have the AT 2020. I only set it up today but I've already noticed the absolutely fantastic fact that it does not pick up soft sounds from behind my Auralex Mudguard (i.e. the quiet fans I have which I could never use with the Blue Snowball).
Let me know when and what you would like me to do.
Cheers.
Hm, a more focussed cardioid pickup pattern? I too use the n00b's snowball but I have also heard that AT 2020 beat it for the price range. I make no pretense to expertise in equipment choices.
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:17 am
by MichloIW
Gale Andrews wrote:MichloIW wrote:Oh and FYI, yes I did have remnants from the later version. When I uninstalled again, this time deleted the folder and removed some reg entries, I found a few things slightly slower.
You should never edit the Windows Registry by hand unless you know what you are doing. No Audacity settings that you see in Preferences and elsewhere are stored in the Registry (except for a registry setting that Windows creates which Audacity cannot control).
If you want to reset your Audacity settings, simply enable the box "Reset Preferences" when you install Audacity.
If you are saying some effects or processes are slower in 2.1.0 than previous Audacity versions, please start a new topic and be specific. Thanks for your help.
Gale
Thank you and yes, a wise warning. Fortunately, I do know what I'm doing as my previous life was spent in I.T. 
Good to know it isn't necessary, however.
So, since I would like to start my new project soon, should I go ahead and try the 12, 6, 6 or would you like samples from me? If so, room tone, speaking, pre and post editing?
Cheers.
Re: Problems with the new Noise Reduction replacing Noise Re
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:35 am
by Gale Andrews
MichloIW wrote:So, since I would like to start my new project soon, should I go ahead and try the 12, 6, 6 or would you like samples from me? If so, room tone, speaking, pre and post editing?
6 for Frequency smoothing is the maximum, but 0 is the default. Perhaps you could experiment with what smoothing level works best for you. I think there is agreement that 0 is not a good default for smoothing in the new effect.
If you attach a sample for a Noise Reduction problem, the sample should have ambient noise followed by your voice with the noise. Perhaps raw before you start editing is better, and we need WAV not MP3.
Thanks
Gale