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Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:02 pm
by Emerogork
I would like to place notes while recording using the timer.
^B or ^M rings a chime and the system ignores the attempt.
Is there a work around or a fix?
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 am
by steve
"Timer Record" is intended for unattended recording. If you are present during the recording, there is no need to use Timer Record, just use the ordinary record function.
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:58 pm
by Emerogork
Not in my case. I record 26 hours at a clip, twice every weekend. The timer allows for unattended start at midnight Saturday morning and ends 2:00 am Sunday morning. During that time, I want to mark the recording to identify points of interest for easier editing and review. To stop the timer would stop the recording and require me to start a new track in order to restart the recording. This is messy not to mention a loss of audio while making the note. Without these markers will make me have to review the entire track a second time.
Without the timer, I can place a note (^b) anytime without stopping the recording.
Is there any reason to have the lock out in the first place?
Might it be possible to start an open ended timer, (one without a stop time)?
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:19 pm
by waxcylinder
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:58 pm
Not in my case. I record 26 hours at a clip, twice every weekend. The timer allows for unattended start at midnight Saturday morning and ends 2:00 am Sunday morning. During that time, I want to mark the recording to identify points of interest for easier editing and review. To stop the timer would stop the recording and require me to start a new track in order to restart the recording. This is messy not to mention a loss of audio while making the note. Without these markers will make me have to review the entire track a second time.
I'm minded tp agree - there is a Proposal in the Wiki for acccess to controls while Timer Record is acrive that I wrote several years ago - and today I explictly added labelling functionality:
https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Prop ... ts_Phase-2
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:58 pm
Without the timer, I can place a note (^b) anytime without stopping the recording.
Workaround: since the an exported label file is just a .txt file - see an example I just exported in the attachment
So you could say create a text file as you record noting the timings and the label text - I think the easiest way to do that would be via an Excel worksheet. And then you can, after recording, import the label track from your ,txt file
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:58 pm
Is there any reason to have the lock out in the first place?
It's basically because the dialog is set up as nodal rather than modeless.
But it can be seen as quite useful to lock out all the controls once a Timer Record has been set up - as it avoid accidental changes to things like recording level - so if we did facilitate access to the controls during Timer Record I would prefer to see that as an option that the user can turn on (either from the Timer Record setup dialog - or as a Preferences setting).
Having the controls locked out does help avoiding my cats interacting with my precious Time Recording that is active while I sleep ...
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:58 pm
Might it be possible to start an open ended timer, (one without a stop time)?
Yes, it's called the Record button
But I suspect that you want to specify a start time and then let it run on …
Peter.
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:23 pm
by waxcylinder
There is also a Feature request in the Wiki for access to controls in Timer Record (currently with 16 votes)
See:
https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Feat ... hancements
Would you like me to add your vote for this ?
Peter
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:08 pm
by Emerogork
An access to controls in a timer recording would be excellent and probably should have a warning. As mentioned, I also see that I would like to have the option to change volume at times while timed recording is active.
For open-ended timer recording, it is not as simple as just hitting record because I need to set the time to start when I am not there to do it manually.
Does a vote help to encourage someone to write the code? Definitely, cast the vote...
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:16 pm
by Emerogork
"Having the controls locked out does help avoiding my cats interacting with my precious Time Recording that is active while I sleep ..."
Now you have me wondering if my cat might start mixing her own tracks.
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:24 pm
by waxcylinder
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:08 pm
Does a vote help to encourage someone to write the code?
Not nexessarily - but once a Feature Request gets 20 or more votes - it gets promoted to the Highest Rated FRs tablehttps://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Feature_Requests#Highest-rated_Feature_Requests
so it gets a bit more exposure.
Having a proper proposal helps too - but is still no guarantee that a developer will pick it up. (and we have very few developers - we are a tiny team)
We are very busy preparing for 2.3.1 Release right now - but once that's out the way I'll try and do some lobbying.
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:08 pm
Definitely, cast the vote...
Done - vote-cont now = 17
Peter.
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:43 pm
by Emerogork
I did not realize such a backlog of suggestions in that list. I guess I am not eligible to vote on any of them.
-Optional ACG would work for me.
-Automated start/stop recording for hourly tracks.
-others..
How does the label track.txt work? Is it set in seconds? Menu option or command line interface?
So much to explore.
Re: Timer recording works well but...
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:39 pm
by waxcylinder
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:43 pm
I did not realize such a backlog of suggestions in that list.
See then also the list of outstanding Proposals:
https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Proposals
This project's been going for quite a while now - so as the snowball rolls along it picks up more snow ...
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:43 pm
I guess I am not eligible to vote on any of them.
-Optional ACG would work for me.
-Automated start/stop recording for hourly tracks.
-others..
You can vote on any or all of the Feature Requests - except for ones you've already voted for - just send me the list ...
Emerogork wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:43 pm
How does the label track.txt work? Is it set in seconds? Menu option or command line interface?
Yes its a simple 3 colum text (that's why Excel is a good way to edit.
Yes it's secondsm fields are start time of label, end time of label, label text
You can File > Import > Labels to import from the text file into a project
See:
https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/imp ... abels.html
Peter.