[Resolved] Live USB key: external record

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[Resolved] Live USB key: external record

Post by DDZ » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:50 pm

Hello everybody!
(French version here)


I must record a conference for an association from a computer it doesn't own. So I use a live USB key OS (I just reinstalled Lubuntu 13.10 64 bits in persistant mode). I see Audacity haven't got the "play and/or record using RAM" option anymore and I mustn't record on the key to avoid it become full.

How must I proceed? Mounting the computer hard drive in my persistent partition then setting the "temporary files directory" location? Anything else? How to set the Audacity "temporary files directory" location outside the USB key?


Thank you in advance for your answer and have a nice day! :)
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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:46 pm

You can change the Audacity temporary directory at Edit > Preferences then choose "Directories" on the left.

It may not be necessary to mount the hard drive - most live Linux media should see the hard drives (even Windows partitions).


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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by DDZ » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:04 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:You can change the Audacity temporary directory at Edit > Preferences then choose "Directories" on the left.
I know ! ;)
But is it possible to set a mounted Windows partition location?
Gale Andrews wrote:It may not be necessary to mount the hard drive - most live Linux media should see the hard drives (even Windows partitions).


Gale
I can see them, but unmounted.
If I mount the Windows partition to my persistent one on the USB key, will the disk usage grow (because of the mount)? So must I create a symbolic link rather than a mount?

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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by Gale Andrews » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:43 pm

DDZ wrote:is it possible to set a mounted Windows partition location?
Why don't you try it and let us know if you are interested in these experiments? ;) I don't have time to load a Linux Live CD right now, but yes I would guess you could set the Windows partition on the host operating system as Audacity temporary directory if your live USB stick lets you write to that partition.

Symbolic links don't work for the Audacity temporary directory on Mac, so may not work on Linux.

Stereo recordings by default take 20 MB of space per minute. Why won't the owner of the computer let you boot in to the native operating system? If (s)he is worried about privacy then you could put Audacity for Windows on the USB stick assuming the native OS is Windows: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Portable_Audacity .



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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by DDZ » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:24 pm

DDZ wrote:is it possible to set a mounted Windows partition location?
Gale Andrews wrote:Why don't you try it and let us know if you are interested in these experiments? ;) I don't have time to load a Linux Live CD right now, but yes I would guess you could set the Windows partition on the host operating system as Audacity temporary directory if your live USB stick lets you write to that partition.

Symbolic links don't work for the Audacity temporary directory on Mac, so may not work on Linux.
I see you don't know the answer, so I will tell you my experiments. :)
Gale Andrews wrote:Stereo recordings by default take 20 MB of space per minute.
In my case, 6.2 MB of space per minute (22 kHz, mono).
Gale Andrews wrote:Why won't the owner of the computer let you boot in to the native operating system? If (s)he is worried about privacy then you could put Audacity for Windows on the USB stick assuming the native OS is Windows: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Portable_Audacity

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As far as possible, I don't want to use Windows (the computer native OS), it is untrustworthy.

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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by Gale Andrews » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:54 pm

DDZ wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:Why won't the owner of the computer let you boot in to the native operating system? If (s)he is worried about privacy then you could put Audacity for Windows on the USB stick assuming the native OS is Windows: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Portable_Audacity
As far as possible, I don't want to use Windows (the computer native OS), it is untrustworthy.
If you use Windows you would save yourself these un-necessary complications. ;)



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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by DDZ » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:46 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:Why won't the owner of the computer let you boot in to the native operating system? If (s)he is worried about privacy then you could put Audacity for Windows on the USB stick assuming the native OS is Windows: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Portable_Audacity
DDZ wrote:As far as possible, I don't want to use Windows (the computer native OS), it is untrustworthy.
Gale Andrews wrote:If you use Windows you would save yourself these un-necessary complications. ;)
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Windows is the "simplistic solution" but I want to avoid it as far as possible because it is untrustworthy (bugs, heavy resources consuming, virus, worms, spyware, malware...). So, that I want to do seems to be a little complication but once the answer found, it will save me plenty of significant complications. ;)

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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by Gale Andrews » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:31 pm

DDZ wrote:Windows is the "simplistic solution" but I want to avoid it as far as possible because it is untrustworthy (bugs, heavy resources consuming, virus, worms, spyware, malware...).
Thanks for your opinions, but I don't accept them for one.

Recent Ubuntu is almost unusably slow on my netbook, but Windows 7 is reasonably usable thereon. The problem seems to be mostly to do with GNOME but also Nautilus (which is the worst file manger for resource hogging that I've ever come across).

I notice 107,754 open bugs in the Ubuntu bug tracker.

Windows attracts writers of malware because it is the most successful operating platform in the world. It is not cost effective for malware authors to target end users on Linux because of the small user base, although Linux is susceptible to some exploits.

Currently I have Windows 8.1 running 15 applications on a dual core 6 GB RAM 2.4 GHz machine at a steady 0 to 5% CPU, with half my memory available. Running a Windows Update only pushes CPU to 10% (much better than Windows 7 and especially XP).

Basic anti-virus and firewall is built into latest Windows, just as with other OS'es.


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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by DDZ » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:53 pm

DDZ wrote:Windows is the "simplistic solution" but I want to avoid it as far as possible because it is untrustworthy (bugs, heavy resources consuming, virus, worms, spyware, malware...).
Gale Andrews wrote:Thanks for your opinions, but I don't accept them for one.

Recent Ubuntu is almost unusably slow on my netbook, but Windows 7 is reasonably usable thereon. The problem seems to be mostly to do with GNOME but also Nautilus (which is the worst file manger for resource hogging that I've ever come across).
Try Lubuntu. It brings LXDE as desktop environment and PCManFM as file manager. ;)
Gale Andrews wrote:I notice 107,754 open bugs in the Ubuntu bug tracker.
Nobody is perfect but fixing Windows (proprietary software) bugs is according to the pleasure of the editor only.
Gale Andrews wrote:Windows attracts writers of malware because it is the most successful operating platform in the world. It is not cost effective for malware authors to target end users on Linux because of the small user base, although Linux is susceptible to some exploits.
It is not true! GNU/Linux is free software, so the source code is avalaible. In case of malware, the community can both see and fix it.
Gale Andrews wrote:Basic anti-virus and firewall is built into latest Windows, just as with other OS'es.

Gale
No anti-virus (which is heavily resources consuming) needed with GNU/Linux. ;)

Last, but not least :
- All Microsoft and Apple software are malware!
- Free software is even more important now

These are why I don't want to use Windows!


Finally, to answer this topic question :
I set the mounted path as "temporary files directory" location. It works and not growing up my USB Key OS temp directory! 8-)

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Re: Live USB key: external record

Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:37 pm

DDZ wrote:
Gale Andrews wrote:Basic anti-virus and firewall is built into latest Windows, just as with other OS'es.
No anti-virus (which is heavily resources consuming) needed with GNU/Linux. ;)
Anti-virus programs don't need to be heavy resource consumers. Modern Windows is much more locked down against exploits than in the Windows 98/XP days.

If you use modern Windows and observe sensible practices you don't need expensive and heavy security suites that are monitoring all activities heuristically and scanning every file that gets written.
DDZ wrote: - All Microsoft and Apple software are malware!
- Free software is even more important now

These are why I don't want to use Windows!
Since you don't use Windows I would suggest you are not in a position to opine about it. I think it's wonderful that Linux is free and open. Despite that it is still not a popular platform for end users and that is exactly why it is not much targeted with viruses.
DDZ wrote:I set the mounted path as "temporary files directory" location. It works and not growing up my USB Key OS temp directory! 8-)
Thanks for confirming.


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