How does a file become a Project?

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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by TexasJim » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:55 am

I wish. When I click O K in the warning box, I'm back to square one. I don't have a Project, I only have a file. If I try to SAVE the file, I get the same warning box again, a loop!. I can only EXPORT my file. There must be something that's keeping my file from becoming a Project. My file DOES show up in the folder as a .wav file and an .aup file. But when I open either with Audacity, I'm in the same trick bag: file, not Project. AAARRRGGGHH!!!! TexasJim

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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by kozikowski » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:03 am

It won't open the WAV file, either? Does the WAV file open in any other app?

Do you get the _DATA folder?
I can create a music file called Test, Export it to an external folder as a .wav file.
What does that mean? Are you using Network Connected Storage or Cloud Storage?

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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by TexasJim » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:42 am

When I have Audacity open, I have no Recent Projects, and File OPEN links to my computer documents file. Both the .wav file and the .aup will open with Audacity, but both are FILES, not a Project. I can play them and edit them. I can't SAVE them. They are in a document folder in my computer. There is also a _DATA file, but when I try to open it, I get a E00 icon on my computer folder that won't open or open with Audacity, or let me move it anywhere.
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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by steve » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:24 pm

TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:55 am
I wish. When I click O K in the warning box, I'm back to square one. I don't have a Project, I only have a file.
What is the exact name of that file?
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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by TexasJim » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:29 pm

steve: Since I lost two days of recordings, I'm just using a short stereo track I called Test 1. As I said, I exported it to a documents folder in my computer, and I have three files, called Test 1.aup, Test 1.wav, and Test 1_DATA. I can open the first two with Audacity and play them. When I close, I can save the changes in my files, but not as a Project. When I open the _DATA file, it goes to something called E00. When I open it, it goes to something called d00. When I try to open it I get about six files with numbers and ending in au.

I don't understand why I record five tracks, edit them and Mix and Render to two stereo tracks, then can't do anything but Export them. Why can't it be Saved as a Project? What causes a Project to exist? I'm trying to record 12 songs, burn them to one CD. Wouldn't that CD be considered a Project?

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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by steve » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:13 pm

TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:29 pm
have three files, called Test 1.aup, Test 1.wav, and Test 1_DATA
Please be precise. Is "Test 1_DATA" the exact name, or is it "Test 1_data", and is it a "file" or a "folder" ?
Do you understand the difference between a file and a folder?
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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by TexasJim » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:14 pm

Thanks, steve. Test 1_data seems to be a FOLDER. I right-click and open it, and I get a folder named e00. I open it,and I get a folder named d00. I open it and I get six FILES(not folders) as follows: e0000d2a.au
e0000dcb.au
e0000ee8.au
e0000135.au
e0000655.au
e0000683.au
If I open the first of the six, part of Test 1 recording is there, not all, and it's one mono track, not stereo. The other five didn't want to link to anything.

Again, I can't fathom why I can't record tracks and Save them as a Project? Or, Export them to a File I can convert to a Project. I've read the Tutorials and follow their steps, and I get a different result. Thanks for trying to help. Adult Education is painful! TexasJim

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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by steve » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:02 pm

TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:14 pm
Test 1_data seems to be a FOLDER.
OK, so that is part of the project. Do not change that folder, or its contents, in any way, otherwise you are likely to destroy the project.

The other part of the project is the file: "Test 1.aup"

The "Test 1.aup" file and the "Test 1_data" folder, together, are the Audacity Project.


As Koz wrote previously;
This is a project:
Image

In your case, the file is called "Test 1.aup" and the folder is called "Test 1_data".

To open the project:
1) Launch Audacity
2) "File menu > Open"
3) Select the file "Test 1.aup"
4) Click the "Open" button.
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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by TexasJim » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm

O.K., steve: That works. But I'm confused. If my "Project" is a group of folders(.aup and _data for each song) do I have to keep all that in the documents Folders in my computer? Should I set up a sub-folder just for my dozen related song tracks under my album name? When I have all twelve songs completed, do I move them all individually out of my folder to a CD burning application like Brasero?

I remember saving tracks before in a Project folder, using the Metadata info to keep them in order, then sending the file to a burning program. Maybe not.
As I said, the Tutorials on these steps are not intuitive nor very explanatory for novices like me.

What are the Save Project, Save Project As, and Save Compressed Project Files buttons for, if I can't save my Project in any of them?

I'll go back to work recording tracks, Mixing and Rendering to Stereo, and Exporting to a folder. Wish me luck.

Thanks very much for trying to help me. TexasJim

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Re: How does a file become a Project?

Post by steve » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:41 pm

TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm
If my "Project" is a group of folders
Not a "group of folders". A project is (usually) just one file and one folder (there are advanced options that go beyond that, but let's not go there ;))
TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm
do I have to keep all that in the documents Folders in my computer?
You have to keep the ".aup file" and the "_data folder" together. You must not move one without the other, or else the project will no longer work.
TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm
Should I set up a sub-folder just for my dozen related song tracks under my album name?
It's a good idea to make a new folder for your projects.
TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm
When I have all twelve songs completed, do I move them all individually out of my folder to a CD burning application like Brasero?
No, you do not make a CD from "Audacity Projects". To make an audio CD you need to "Export" from Audacity to create ".WAV" files.
Brassero can create an audio CD from ".WAV" files.

TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm
What are the Save Project, Save Project As
If you open a project and start working on it, you can use "Save Project" to save your work. As with virtually all other computer programs, this will update the original project that you opened.

"Save Project As..." allows you to save the project with a new name.

Don't worry about the other two options - you probably don't need them.

TexasJim wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:04 pm
Wish me luck.
Good luck :)
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