AIFF files will not play on iPod, will on iTunes

[audio_pete]

Time for an entry in Bugzilla.

First, none of these files come back out of iTunes .
I opened the Audacity file from the split in Audacity as an aiff file,
Then I saved a copy of the file as aiff.
No help.
I opened the Audacity file from the split in Amadeus as an aiff file,
Then I saved a copy of the file as aiff.
Lost metadata, but in order and plays.

Let me amplify
Turn that dial all the way up to 11.

In the first test,
I open with Audacity,
It recognizes a file with some issues
but it handles those issues so I can work with it in Audacity.
However, when I write out a copy
it does not write out a fixed aiff file.

In the second test,
I open with Amadeus,
Behaves like Audacity.
However, it writes out a corrected aiff file.

I just rechecked to see
and yes the Amadeus files work correctly in iPod.

One other wrinkle.
Peak finds fault with the Audacity resaved copies of the split files
Peak has no issue with the Amadeus resaved copies.

[steve]

The last "multi export..." is no the metadata test, just a letter and a number no title, no artist, no work.

It would be most helpful if you avoided writing in abbreviations.
"just a letter": What does that mean in English?
"and a number": Likewise, what does that mean?
"no title, no artist": If you are referring to metadata, please say so.
"no work": We've had this phrase before, but I'm still not clear about the details. Assuming that you mean the same "no work" as in this post, you go on to say "iTunes looks at it, gets an error and says I will fix that for you." I doubt that iTunes actually said that. What was the actual error /warning from iTunes?

It recognizes a file with some issues

Precisely what issues?

Time for an entry in Bugzilla.

Not until there is a clear description of the fault.
In what way do AIFF files produced by Audacity fail to meet the AIFF file format specification? If the files do not meet the file format specification, then that is a bug that can be addressed by the Audacity developers. If the files do meet the AIFF file format specification, then it is not an Audacity bug.

Does this file play correctly on your ipod? http://www.kozco.com/tech/clips/millerGuitar2.aiff

[audio_pete]

cassette tape to mac os x 10.5.9
nearly always record side 2 first, so have to cut and paste to get sides in order
normalize to max minus 1 down click (12.0 to 11.7)
use point labels
multi export with point labels
export aiff 16 bit 44100

add to itunes library not import

sync album to ipod classic.

ipod classic does not play or plays first song and then skips around without playing the rest of the album.

This is the problem.

Can you multi export an Audacity project as ascii files
and get them to play correctly on an ipod.

I have not been able to
and have tried several ways.

I can multi export an Audacity project as WAV files
and it works perfectly.

What can I clarify?

[steve]

Can you multi export an Audacity project as ascii files
and get them to play correctly on an ipod.

I presume that you mean "AIFF files" and not "ascii files" ?
We are trying to work with what you tell us, but unless you can tell us clearly then there is little anyone can do to help.

What can I clarify?

As a start, you could tell us if this file plays correctly on your ipod: http://www.kozco.com/tech/clips/millerGuitar2.aiff

[audio_pete]

The link opens and plays in safari.

Not sure how to download to my computer.

Cannot see source "View Source" is grayed out.

Did you run a test on Audacity 2.x like my issue?
Did you split a project as aiff and load to an ipod?

I would be glad to split your file if I could get hold of it.

[Gale Andrews]

As far as I can see so far in this very hard to follow topic:

• Exporting multiple WAV files with no metadata play in iPod
• Exporting multiple AIFF files with or without metadata do not play in iPod
• Toog could play Koz's single "guitar" AIFF file (that has no metadata) in iPod - we do not know yet if audio_pete can do so.
• Toog could not play AIFF files created by export selection on iPod.

@Koz - did you make this "guitar" AIFF file from a complete track (FIle > Export), or File > Export Selection?


Gale

[Gale Andrews]

The link opens and plays in safari.

Not sure how to download to my computer.

Right-click over the link - there should be a choice to save the file.

Did you run a test on Audacity 2.x like my issue?

Personally, no. The steps to reproduce the Export Multiple out-of-order problem are not clear, so I am just guessing .

Did you split a project as aiff and load to an ipod?

I do not have an iPod. Koz or someone else who has an iPod could try. The clearer the problem is, the more likely someone will try.


Gale

[audio_pete]

The link opens and plays in safari.

Not sure how to download to my computer.

Right-click over the link - there should be a choice to save the file.

Not in Safari, or Firefox either
but I did get to File Save As in Firefox

Did you split a project as aiff and load to an ipod?

I do not have an iPod. Koz or someone else who has an iPod could try. The clearer the problem is, the more likely someone will try.

Miller aiff did not play on my ipod
split Miller aiff did not play on my ipod ( 4 10 seconds splits)
Buffy aiff already on my ipod plays just fine
I readded the bluegrass tape aiff on my ipod and it plays just fine

[steve]

Miller aiff did not play on my ipod

How do we interpret the result that this file does not play on your iPod, yet Koz tested that same file on two different iPods and it played on both with no problem?
Could it be that the issue depends on a specific iPod version, or perhaps a specific version of iPod firmware, or something to do with the version of iTunes that is used to load the AIFF files onto the iPod?

It appears that this problem can also occur with AIFF files created by Logic https://discussions.apple.com/thread/13 ... 0&tstart=0

And a similar (possibly the same) issue here that appeared with AIFF files created by Logic Express after the user updated iTunes: http://forums.ilounge.com/ipod-classic- ... rmats.html

From a quick Google search it appears that there is a common problem with Mac OS X getting AIFF and AIFC files mixed up.

These types of issues with AIFF files come up on forums for other software that are unrelated to Audacity, including Sound Forge, Logic, ProTools and Ableton Live.
The best "solution" that I've seen in these forums is to not use WAV rather than AIFF.

Do we have any direct evidence that Audacity is writing AIFF files that are not compliant to the file specification?

[audio_pete]

I am not sure.
How do we interpret this result.

I opened all the Audacity files in Tommy with Amadeus
saved them as aiff in another folder (tommy_a)
added those songs to my itunes library
synched them to my ipod
and they played FINE!

Tried the Audacity only Tommy
and nothing played.

As far as what may be wrong with the Audacity file,
I am not a progrmmer
but I have attached what Peak LE says about your files.

It would be nicer if it fixed the file for you,
and let you work with it
but that's a choice in design.