AIFF files will not play on iPod, will on iTunes

[audio_pete]

Correct. I answered in the context that we already knew that Audacity AIFF would not play and, so, were there anyone else's AIFF files that would not play.

So far, only AIFF files created by exporting selection, in Audacity, will not play.

Am I the only one to whom this has happened?

G

I have a similar issue.
Seems like the metadata is at the heart of it.
Aiff with metadata, not in track order and does not play properly.
WAV without metadata works fine.
Aiff works with iTunes and on iPad .

Am pretty sure I have/had an Amedeus aiff on my iPod worked fine
but,again no metadata. So maybe not apples to apples.

[Gale Andrews]

Correct. I answered in the context that we already knew that Audacity AIFF would not play and, so, were there anyone else's AIFF files that would not play.

So far, only AIFF files created by exporting selection, in Audacity, will not play.

Am I the only one to whom this has happened?

G

I have a similar issue.

As I asked in your other topic http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 94#p218594:

If you export a single AIFF from a whole track, with all metadata fields completed, do Amadeus and Peak have the same problem?

That is, if you save a single AIFF created in Audacity in Amadeus and Peak, do they empty the metadata? But they don't do that with AIFF's created by iTunes?

Have you tried iPod connected to the computer, to rule out battery power as the reason it will not play Audacity-created AIFF's that contain metadata?

Aiff with metadata, not in track order and does not play properly.

Please generate a tone or record something in Audacity then give us steps 1, 2, 3 to reproduce this
problem. Don't use AIFF files already created by iTunes because we know Audacity modifies iTunes NORM and PGAP.

Tell us exactly how you are splitting the tracks using Export Multiple and exactly what you are typing into Metadata Editor. Tell us exactly in what way the exported files are "not in track order".

Better still, please upload some AIFF files produced by Audacity Export Multiple from a tone or a recording to a web server so that someone who has iPod on Mac can try them.

Aiff works with iTunes and on iPad .

Are you talking about AIFF files written by iTunes, including those converted by iTunes from WAV or AIFF files produced by Audacity?

If so, isn't that a useful workaround to the problem?


Gale

[audio_pete]

cassette tape to mac os x 10.5.9
nearly always record side 2 first, so have to cut and paste to get sides in order
normalize to max minus 1 down click (12.0 to 11.7)
use point labels
multi export with point labels
export aiff 16 bit 44100

add to itunes library
itunes can play but songs out of order (see attachment)
ipad can play over icloud out of order

ipod classic does not play or plays first and then skips around without playing.

Not all code handles problems the same
I think Peak which finds the 2nd file on as bad no end of file
and ipod software have limited ability to handle a file that is not 100.00%.

comments on tiff
top album file splits reopened and resaved with Audacity, out of order but play in itunes
second album (unknown) file splits opened with Amadeus and saved, in order, plays in itunes, metadata gone
third album file splits from Audacity out of order, plays in itunes, skips in ipod, modified metadata in itunes added track number to name to see if helped
fourth album file split into WAV files, in order, plays in itunes, plays in ipod,no metadata

[Gale Andrews]

Thanks for testing.

cassette tape to mac os x 10.5.9
nearly always record side 2 first so have to cut and paste to get sides in order
normalize to max minus 1 down click (12.0 to 11.7)
use point labels
multi export with point labels
export aiff 16 bit 44100

Did you add metadata to these files? If so, exactly what metadata? Was it the same metadata for each track, apart from the track title and track number?

add to itunes library
itunes can play but songs out of order (see attachment)
ipad can play over icloud out of order

ipod classic does not play or plays first and then skips around without playing.

comments on tiff
top album file splits reopened and resaved with Audacity, out of order but play in itunes

Do you mean you re-exported from a saved Audacity project?

As explained, I think the best test is to record something then export multiple and add metadata, not reuse files saved from iTunes.

second album (unknown) file splits opened with Amadeus and saved, in order, plays in itunes, metadata gone
third album file splits from Audacity out of order, plays in itunes, skips in ipod, modified metadata in itunes added track number to name to see if helped

So did it help with a) ordering the files correctly b) playing in iPod?

fourth album file split into WAV files, in order, plays in itunes, plays in ipod,no metadata

Could you possibly test with export multiple AIFF files with no metadata, if you have not already? Just name the files in each Audacity label and see the order in iTunes and if they play in iPod.

And please could you test the files playing on iPod when it is connected to the computer even if you normally would not have the iPod connected. If it is relevant it could help other users.


Gale

[audio_pete]

Time for an entry in Bugzilla.

First, none of these files come back out of iTunes .
I opened the Audacity file from the split in Audacity as an aiff file,
Then I saved a copy of the file as aiff.
No help.
I opened the Audacity file from the split in Amadeus as an aiff file,
Then I saved a copy of the file as aiff.
Lost metadata, but in order and played.

First the good news.
The files seem to play everywhere else just fine:
iTunes on my computer
iPad from iCloud ( maybe an apple copy, but one tape working on would have no copy)
Apple tv from iCloud .
The exports as WAV files work on iPod.

Now the word from Peak LE
I opened the Audacity file from the split with Peak,
The first file opens and a copy is saved.
None of the other files open
can't find end of file.

Now the BAD news
Multi export song name, artist put in metadata editor no work
Multi export with song name as label, all same artist no work
Multi export with default letter for song name no work

I am not the only one reporting issues.

Please make a Bugzilla entry or give me access.

[steve]

Now the BAD news
Multi export song name, artist put in metadata editor no work
Multi export with song name as label, all same artist no work
Multi export with default letter for song name no work

What does "no work" mean?
The Metadata Editor does not have a "Song Name" field. Do you mean "Track Title"?

[audio_pete]

The files when synced to my iPod
do not play.
It might play first song but then it displays the title to the 4th,6th, 2nd and back to the first
without playing a note.

The file is not right.
iTunes looks at it, gets an error and says I will fix that for you.
Amadeus does the same.
Peak says whoa wait a second, let me tell this guy the file has a problem.
iPod software does not catch error, has no code to handle the situation
and flies off in search of the end of the file.

Try to get the album to play a couple of times
and you have to restart the iPod
to get it to work with any song?
It's so confused.

[Gale Andrews]

I opened the Audacity file from the split in Audacity as an aiff file,
Then I saved a copy of the file as aiff. No help.

You kindly offered to test AIFF's with no metadata. Are these tests with no metadata? If so, what does "no help" mean? Were the files out of order in iTunes? Did the files refuse to play in iPod when running on battery?

Now the BAD news
Multi export song name, artist put in metadata editor no work
Multi export with song name as label, all same artist no work
Multi export with default letter for song name no work

I think you have already said that if metadata is added in Audacity the songs may be out of order in iTunes. I'll see if I can reproduce the "out of order" problem in iTunes, but if not, your steps above are not accurate enough for a bug report.

The files when synced to my iPod do not play.

Is this with the cable still connected to the iPod, or with the cable disconnected, so that the iPod is on battery?


Gale

[audio_pete]

I opened the Audacity file from the split in Audacity as an aiff file,
Then I saved a copy of the file as aiff. No help.

You kindly offered to test AIFF's with no metadata. Are these tests with no metadata? If so, what does "no help" mean? Were the files out of order in iTunes? Did the files refuse to play in iPod when running on battery?

The last "multi export..." is no the metadata test, just a letter and a number no title, no artist, no work.

Exact same test with WAV is a success.

Now the BAD news
Multi export song name, artist put in metadata editor no work
Multi export with song name as label, all same artist no work
Multi export with default letter for song name no work

I think you have already said that if metadata is added in Audacity the songs may be out of order in iTunes. I'll see if I can reproduce the "out of order" problem in iTunes, but if not, your steps above are not accurate enough for a bug report.

"out of order" is less important than the fact they do not play.

The files when synced to my iPod do not play.

Is this with the cable still connected to the iPod, or with the cable disconnected, so that the iPod is on battery?

I will run a test with the iPod plugged into a power socket but not connected to the computer.

[audio_pete]

Plugged iPod into wall socket
Tommy by the Who, all titles,in order
Ran through tracks 1 to 23 without playing a note

Crusin' with the classics
Ran through p1 through p10 in about half a second

Size is not an issue, I had I side of a bluegrass tape on my iPod before in aiff.
Took it off to replace with full copy split into songs
but then that did not work.