Wave image small, sound inaudible

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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:21 am

frisbee wrote:Done all that: still no explanation of difference between direct input (e.g. from radio) and streaming (e.g. from iPlayer) or how to correct it
The difference is simple - choose the Soundflower input in Audacity when you want to record streaming audio and the built-in input when you want to record a physical radio or tape deck.

If there is still a problem, open Help > Audio Device Info..., drag-select the contents, Command - C to copy, then paste that in here. Is the problem still that the iPlayer is recorded too quietly? If so, does turning up the Audacity input slider in Mixer Toolbar http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/mixer_toolbar.html make any difference? It may not - I have never used Soundlower.


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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:44 am

Gale Andrews wrote:does turning up the Audacity input slider in Mixer Toolbar http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/mixer_toolbar.html make any difference?
Yes, it does. Both the Audacity output slider and the input slider will affect the achieved volume of the recording.


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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by frisbee » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:15 pm

Device info herewith: input slider is on max.

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==============================
Default capture device number: 3
Default playback device number: 2
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Device ID: 0
Device name: Built-in Microphone
Host name: Core Audio
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 0
Low Input Latency: 0.000952
Low Output Latency: 0.010000
High Input Latency: 0.009524
High Output Latency: 0.100000
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 1
Device name: Built-in Input
Host name: Core Audio
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 0
Low Input Latency: 0.000952
Low Output Latency: 0.010000
High Input Latency: 0.009524
High Output Latency: 0.100000
Supported Rates:
==============================
Device ID: 2
Device name: Built-in Output
Host name: Core Audio
Input channels: 0
Output channels: 2
Low Input Latency: 0.010000
Low Output Latency: 0.000952
High Input Latency: 0.100000
High Output Latency: 0.009524
Supported Rates:
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==============================
Device ID: 3
Device name: Soundflower (2ch)
Host name: Core Audio
Input channels: 2
Output channels: 2
Low Input Latency: 0.010000
Low Output Latency: 0.000000
High Input Latency: 0.100000
High Output Latency: 0.000000
Supported Rates:
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==============================
Device ID: 4
Device name: Soundflower (16ch)
Host name: Core Audio
Input channels: 16
Output channels: 16
Low Input Latency: 0.010000
Low Output Latency: 0.000000
High Input Latency: 0.100000
High Output Latency: 0.000000
Supported Rates:
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==============================
Selected capture device: 3 - Soundflower (2ch)
Selected playback device: 2 - Built-in Output
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
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==============================
Available mixers:
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Available capture sources:
==============================
Available playback volumes:
0 - PCM
==============================
Capture volume is native
Playback volume is native

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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by Gale Andrews » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:17 am

frisbee wrote:input slider is on max.
If the problem is that it records too quietly, put the output slider on maximum too.


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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by frisbee » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:56 pm

Done that too - no difference: wave peaks never more that about 0.2 with full symphony orchestra at forte. Sound is audible, but low volume.

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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by billw58 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:49 pm

Turn up the playback volume in iPlayer to max.

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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by frisbee » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:51 pm

It already is

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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by billw58 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:45 pm

I'm trying input to Audacity from Soundflower on my Mac right now, and it works perfectly. Sound coming from Firefox or iTunes.

I can see no fault in your device info.

Please describe exactly the steps you took (including setting up Soundflower in System Preferences) to record audio playing on the computer. If iPlayer is still a problem, try iTunes or a YouTube video playing in Safari.

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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by Gale Andrews » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:02 am

Are you saying that when you record then play that recording back at full volume, it is quieter than the volume at which you heard the sound in iPlayer while you were recording it?


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Re: Wave image small, sound inaudible

Post by frisbee » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:29 pm

SysPrefs: input=line-in, output=Soundflower 2ch, input volume at half, output volume at full
Audacity: input=built-in output, output=Soundflower 2ch

Wave peaks about 0.2-0.3 max
Recorded output lower volume than input sound
Same with both Firefox and Safari
Seems a bit better on YouTube, but only marginal, and the stuff I want is (so far) only on BBC Radio iPlayer

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