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MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users [SOLVED]

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:42 pm
by BecciSimmons
We use a Mobile Device Management system (JAMF) to deploy Audacity to our students and staff, both of whom have standard (non-admin) accounts. All of their machines are running Catalina.

With the way Catalina implements security Audacity now has to ask permission from each user to access the microphone. Camera and Microphone access can't be pushed with profiles any more, it needs to be allowed specifically by the logged in user. With other apps that need microphone access (zoom, google meet, loom, adobe audition) the user is prompted on first opening the app and despite not being an admin they can put a checkmark in the box in System Preferences > Security and Privacy > Microphone to allow access.

Audacity doesn't prompt for microphone permission, nor can it be manually added to the permissions pane. To make it work I would have to log into an admin account on each student and teacher machine to enable the microphone. This isn't a viable workflow.

Is there a plan to enable the microphone prompting in a standard account with a future release of audacity? maybe v3? or is it time to say goodbye to this beloved (by staff) tool?

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:55 pm
by kozikowski
Any chance of pushing the machines back to an earlier version than Catalina?

It's possible to make machines so safe they stop working.

Koz

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pm
by steve
Which version of Audacity are you trying to use?

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:09 pm
by BecciSimmons
Sorry Steve, I know I should have said, specs are:

Audacity 2.4.2
Catalina 10.15.6

and kozikowski, no chance to push machine os backwards, more than ever we are dependent on video conferencing software that needs 10.15.6

Becci

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:21 pm
by kozikowski
video conferencing software that needs 10.15.6
First I've heard of this. Specifically which software?
to deploy Audacity to our students and staff,
We never got to the why part, so we don't have a job yet. Why are we doing this?

It's extraordinarily difficult to get any program to record both sides of a conference, comm, or chat.

Koz

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:02 pm
by BecciSimmons
Hi Koz,
The audacity issue is not linked to the videoconferencing functionality, I mentioned it as an example. We don't use audacity with the videoconferencing. I'd rather not go off on a tangent. My question is whether Audacity is addressing the issue of microphone access under the Catalina operating system.
Becci

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:07 pm
by steve
BecciSimmons wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:42 pm
Audacity doesn't prompt for microphone permission
I could be wrong, but I thought that the release version of Audacity 2.4.2 did prompt for microphone permission :?
Audacity is listed in microphone permissions on my Mac.
(macOS is not my usual OS)

Re: MDM deployment to Catalina with standard users [SOLVED]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:54 pm
by BecciSimmons
Hallelujah!
Thanks, Steve, you're right, the latest version of 2.4.2 does ask for microphone permissions properly and a standard user can grant those permissions.