Locking up

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Re: Locking up

Post by [email protected] » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:15 am

steve wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:49 pm
[email protected] wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:54 pm
That's a lot of characters to add when the file is being moved to a temporary folder anyway.
26 additional characters (".mp4" has been replaced by ".tmp"). That still allows you up to 229 characters for the file name.
The thing that concerns me most is that you say it causes Audacity to lock up. What happens if you click the "OK" button on the error screen?
No, two different errors. This one just throws a message that I can cancel out of, but I can't normalize the songs (and there seem to be a lot of them).

The problem here is that I have to make the song names unique so that Audacity will see them. Audacity won't dive through folders, everything has to be at the top level. Because of that I have to use a program to rename the files so that all of the names are unique, that leads to long file names. Yeah, 229 is a lot, but not to make them unique. The app I use offers selections from the meta data to combine to make them unique. I had picked album title and song name. I'm going to have to see if I can use something else to make the names smaller. It took 18.4 hrs to get to this point.

The lockup didn't happen with 2.0.3, just seems to happen with 2.3.3. When it locks up I can't do anything short of powering down the computer, it locks solid. I can repeat it, if you tell me what information you need to debug the problem then I'll copy it off to a file and attach it here.

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Re: Locking up

Post by [email protected] » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:09 pm

steve wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:26 pm
According to the manual: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/apply_macro.html
It is recommended not to process more than 500 files at a time.
Try rebooting your computer, and then apply the Macro to 500 files or less. Does that work?
I tried it with 248 files, locked up at the same area, about 97 files.

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Re: Locking up

Post by steve » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:55 pm

[email protected] wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:09 pm
I tried it with 248 files, locked up at the same area, about 97 files.
Is it locking up on particular files? If so, are you able to process those files by "manually" applying the commands (rather than via a Macro), or does one of those commands still lock up?
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Re: Locking up

Post by [email protected] » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:45 pm

steve wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:55 pm
[email protected] wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:09 pm
I tried it with 248 files, locked up at the same area, about 97 files.
Is it locking up on particular files? If so, are you able to process those files by "manually" applying the commands (rather than via a Macro), or does one of those commands still lock up?
I tried to test your theory by seeing if there is a particular song that it is locking on

First, there is not. I started Audacity starting further down the song list, selecting only 156 files, it still locked at 95 files (prior was 97). The file it locked on before was processed, but Audacity locked on a different file.

Second, I have a new problem. I had to force shutdown the Mac, now when I tried to run Audacity it thinks there is a copy still running. I have tried restarting the computer and shutting it down, neither resolved the problem. Image of the error message is attached.
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Re: Locking up

Post by kozikowski » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:40 pm

A file got stuck.

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Re: Locking up

Post by [email protected] » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:49 pm

kozikowski wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:40 pm
A file got stuck.

viewtopic.php?p=377330#p377330

Koz
Thanks, that solve problem #2, #1 is still an issue. Sigh.

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Re: Locking up

Post by [email protected] » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:51 am

Okay, I tried something different. I selected a completely different set of files and ran it through, still locked up at 97 files. Thus far it seems 95-97 files is the sweet (or sour) spot. Here is a screenshot of the macro I create.
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Re: Locking up

Post by kozikowski » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:40 am

Memory Leak? Every time Audacity loops through a file it leaves a tiny part of itself in memory.

Go > Utilities > Activity Monitor.

CPU, MEMORY and DISK are semi-real time displays and you can watch the progress of your jobs and how many resources are being used. It's possible you're going to find something slowly filling up or in some other way advancing over time, eventually failing.

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Re: Locking up

Post by steve » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:51 am

[email protected] wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:45 pm
I started Audacity starting further down the song list, selecting only 156 files, it still locked at 95 files (prior was 97). The file it locked on before was processed,
So it previously locked on file 97, but this time it locked on file 95, but it processed file 97 on the way to 95 ? How can that be? Why / how did it reach file 97 before file 95?
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Re: Locking up

Post by [email protected] » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:06 pm

steve wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:51 am
[email protected] wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:45 pm
I started Audacity starting further down the song list, selecting only 156 files, it still locked at 95 files (prior was 97). The file it locked on before was processed,
So it previously locked on file 97, but this time it locked on file 95, but it processed file 97 on the way to 95 ? How can that be? Why / how did it reach file 97 before file 95?
Different runs with different files trying to see if it is a specific file causing the problem. First run locked on the 97th file, second run locked on the 95th file of its run.

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