Orphaned files, tracks there but no audio

[leidspleins]

Hello,

I had a crash on Audacity and now am unable to access a project I was working on. I suspect that it may be lost for good (and that I was not taking good precautions) but I thought I would ask here to see if anyone can help me.

I had recorded a project but was not happy with it so was rerecording. I had both the old and new open and I was listening to a sentence or two from the old before rerecording it on the new one.

I have all my audacity files on a hard drive rather than on my PC so the temporary files are in the same folder as the audacity file - I can't find any temporary files in the usual place (appdate, local etc).

I have found audacity to crash regularly - if i am recording a 20 minute project it will crash at least 4-5 times. Normally on reopening it will have the recover project option and I can carry on. This time it gave me a message about orphan files and all of the tracks were blank (straight spectogram line and no audio on them). the data folder for the old version has also disappeared completely so that project won't open at all.

I tried using recovery utility, importing the files, and looking online but can't find any fix. Most of the data files for the new version of the project are silent when imported into audacity although I did find some that were parts of my recording but completely robotic, broken, and noisy sounding.

It is not the end of the world but if i can recover some of this it would save me a bit of hassle! I am using Audacity 2.1.3 on windows 10. I have also attached some screenshots.

Thank you!

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[leidspleins]

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[steve]

I had both the old and new open and I was listening to a sentence or two from the old before rerecording it on the new one.

What were the names of those projects?
What is "aztec part 2.aup"? is that the old recording?
What is "2.5 aztec part 2.aup"? is that new recording?

I have all my audacity files on a hard drive

You mean on an "External hard drive"?
I would not recommend recording directly to a USB hard drive. While it will probably work most of the time, USB does not guarantee that data is written straight away. Working with audio (or video) frequently requires fast read/write access. If data has not actually been written when it should have been written, that can cause unspecified problems.

It's perfectly OK to use an external USB drive for storing old projects, but I'd highly recommend copying / moving them to a local drive before working on them, and definitely when recording.


For projects that have not yet been saved, data is saved in Audacity's temp folder. By default this is at:
C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Local\Audacity\SessionData
There's some information about crash recovery here: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/reco ... ually.html

[leidspleins]

Thanks for the reply!

"2.5 aztec part 2.aup" is the old one and "aztec part 2 new" is the new version. I think the fact that I was recording directly onto the external hard drive was probably the thing that did it and maybe will mean that i can't recover anything. The session date folder is completely empty and apart from the files I have found in the "aztec part 2 new_data" folder, I can't find any other temporary data.

Thanks again.

[steve]

"2.5 aztec part 2.aup" is the old one

Where is the "2.5 aztec part 2_data" folder? It should be in the same location as "2.5 aztec part 2.aup".

[steve]

and what's the "aztecs part 2" XML file?

[leidspleins]

The aztecs part 2 file disappeared when the crash happened (rendering the original version unopenable), and the xml file is the script

[Gale Andrews]

The aztecs part 2 file disappeared when the crash happened (rendering the original version unopenable),

You mean, the "2.5 aztec part 2_data" folder disappeared?

Orphan files do not silence the project in Audacity 2.1.3. I expect there are missing audio data block files. Please open Help > Show Log... top right of Audacity and attach the log.

I have found audacity to crash regularly - if i am recording a 20 minute project it will crash at least 4-5 times.

This is the crux of the problem which you will need to fix. Crashes while recording are almost always driver problems with the audio device you are using. Exactly what equipment or audio devices are you recording with (makes and model numbers if possible please) and how does that equipment or device connect to the computer?


Gale

[leidspleins]

I will paste the log in two parts as there is a maximum character limit on this forums - having looked at it, it says the problem is error 126: the specified module could not be found.

Yeah the ""2.5 aztec part 2_data" folder just disappeared completely. I am using an Asus S200E laptop and was recording onto a seagate external hard drive. I am also using a CAD U37 microphone for recording. Both the hard drive and the microphone connect via USB.

Thanks again!

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11:55:27: Audacity 2.1.3
11:55:27: Trying to load FFmpeg libraries...
11:55:27: Trying to load FFmpeg libraries from system paths. File name is 'avformat-55.dll'.
11:55:27: Looking up PATH environment variable...
11:55:27: PATH = 'C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Users\Alix\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps;'
11:55:27: Checking that '' is in PATH...
11:55:27: FFmpeg directory is in PATH.
11:55:27: Checking for monolithic avformat from 'avformat-55.dll'.
11:55:27: Error: Failed to load shared library 'avformat-55.dll' (error 126: the specified module could not be found.)
11:55:27: Loading avutil from ''.
11:55:27: Error: Failed to load shared library '.dll' (error 126: the specified module could not be found.)
11:55:27: Loading avcodec from ''.
11:55:27: Error: Failed to load shared library '.dll' (error 126: the specified module could not be found.)
11:55:27: Loading avformat from 'avformat-55.dll'.
11:55:27: Error: Failed to load shared library 'avformat-55.dll' (error 126: the specified module could not be found.)
11:55:27: Error: Failed to load FFmpeg libraries.
11:55:27: Error: Failed to find compatible FFmpeg libraries.
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[leidspleins]

I didn't post the second part of the log as it is just more of the same (a list of files it cant find). I looked up about the error and found that it was a proble, with the "avformat-55.dll" file. I downloaded as the Audacity website recommended and then located it within the program. Now it has moved on to error 127: the specified procedure could not be found

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NEW LOG:

12:26:00: Audacity 2.1.3
12:26:00: Trying to load FFmpeg libraries...
12:26:00: mLibAVFormatPath ('C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2\avformat-55.dll') is not empty. Loading from it.
12:26:00: Looking up PATH environment variable...
12:26:00: PATH = 'C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Users\Alix\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps;'
12:26:00: Checking that 'C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2' is in PATH...
12:26:00: Warning: FFmpeg directory 'C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2' is not in PATH.
12:26:00: Temporarily prepending ';C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2' to PATH...
12:26:00: Checking for monolithic avformat from 'C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2\avformat-55.dll'.
12:26:00: Error: Couldn't find symbol 'avutil_version' in a dynamic library (error 127: the specified procedure could not be found.)
12:26:00: Error: Couldn't find symbol 'avcodec_version' in a dynamic library (error 127: the specified procedure could not be found.)
12:26:00: avformat not monolithic
12:26:00: Loading avutil from 'avutil-52.dll'.
12:26:00: Loading avcodec from 'avcodec-55.dll'.
12:26:00: Loading avformat from 'C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2\avformat-55.dll'.
12:26:00: Returning PATH to previous setting...
12:26:00: Actual avutil path C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2\avutil-52.dll
12:26:00: Actual avcodec path C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2\avcodec-55.dll
12:26:00: Actual avformat path C:\Users\Alix\Downloads\ffmpeg-win-2.2.2\avformat-55.dll
12:26:00: Importing symbols...
12:26:00: All symbols loaded successfully. Initializing the library.
12:26:00: Retrieving FFmpeg library version numbers:
12:26:00:    AVCodec version 0x373466 - 55.52.102 (built against 0x373466 - 55.52.102)
12:26:00:    AVFormat version 0x372164 - 55.33.100 (built against 0x372164 - 55.33.100)
12:26:00:    AVUtil version 0x344264 - 52.66.100 (built against 0x344264 - 52.66.100)
12:26:00: FFmpeg libraries loaded successfully.